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Kenner / Hasbro Collecting => General Hasbro collecting => Topic started by: Tamer on January 03, 2014, 06:15:09 AM
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I am trying to track down a few figures of my own and keeping an eye out for figures for some trading buds and am wondering this morning, just how much I am willing to pay for a recently released action figure that I want after figuring in things like my time spent, money on gas running around, tendency for pegs to be clogged with peg-warmers, etc. I just did a search on the new
Black Series Six Inch Boba Fett (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5575055288&toolid=10001&campid=5337377665&customid=&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_sop%3D15%26_nkw%3Dstar%2Bwars%2Bblack%2Bseries%2Bboba%2Bfett%26rt%3Dnc%26LH_BIN%3D1)
and see that right now he is going for double his original price. At first I think no way, but then I am reminded of the ridiculousness that resulted for the SDCC Exclusive and CE Exclusive versions of this figure with the Han in Carbonite so perhaps this ain't that bad? Anyhow, I am thinking of starting an editorial series here at ISY to comment on some of the current trends we are seeing in both our action figure collecting and customizing hobbies and though this issue would be fun to start out with.
Having said that, some of us are gonna differ in our opinions and thats ok, but please lets respect each other's views and see what we come up with.
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Well, since the 6" line has pretty much established a solid base, I think we'll just have to sit out all this craziness. Last week I tried to pre-order that 6" ST from Dorksidetoys, but I might as well tried toppling over an AT-AT by tickling the underside of its feet with a feather ;D I'm just glad they only allowed one per customer, excellent move on their part.
I must say, the craziness at CE2 was actually non-present. Me and my room mate from Chicago were very surprised to see a line of only a handful of people on the first morning and even on the last day, the Hasbro booth still had some cases left.
Of course, I only buy my figures online, since the availability in the stores here is absolutely zero :) All I gotta do, is log on, browse a couple of sites, find some sweet deals (or not) and enjoy a couple of cold ones :D
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Remco, I have pretty much turned into an online only person too. I am just not seeing new items in my stores even though I know they are hitting stores supposedly in the rest of the country. I was able to get all of the Black Series Wave 3 this way, also from Dorkside Toys. I still have not seen anything past wave one of the Black Series Figures on the regular pegs at the two stores closest to me. I did see Wave 2 on an extended trip, but nothing great. Matter of fact I am getting ready to go to a few stores today as a result of having to travel a bit, but am really not expecting to see a thing.
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Retail is high enough as it is, I avoid ever paying more.
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Retail is high enough as it is, I avoid ever paying more.
Sounds like you have some stores that produce. Wish I could say the same. It is a battle being a collector in my stock deprived areas.
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I voted a little more but I want to point out that I only do that in certain instances. Like a rare or hard to find (shortpacked) figure I might pay a few dollars more but it's rare I will do that. It has to be something I really want as well. However I refuse to pay exorbitant prices (I think the Boba Fett is a prime example, I might put out an extra $5 or so dollars but no way double).
I am a firm believer that as long as we feed the scalpers the more they will snag up the good stuff and force us all to pay asinine prices.
My collection is at a point where 90% of what I get is just gravy. There are things still coming out that enhance and help my collection quite naturally (Darth Palagius, Deathlock, Death's Head, Blind Master) but overall I just won't go there. I've cut back a lot as it is due to economics and the last thing I need to do is try to justify $40 for a toy. Might sound harsh but really I cannot do that and I am surprised so many are so willing to.
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As long as they ship well I am willing to pay slightly higher prices. I also find myself trying to gravitate towards smaller sellers as they understand collectors a bit more and ship better items. Its not like big online sellers worry about momc or things like that.
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I recently browsed through a toy store booklet and noticed they had the first and second 6" wave of the Black Series. At 32 euros each. That's $43 :o
Of course, there are import duties, taxes, middle men being paid, but all I can think of is why should our stores even bother? No one's going to buy a 6" figure for such a ridiculous price.
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Remco, good thing you have folks like us who can supply you with things at better prices. If it can fit in padded envelop I can usually ship for not more than thirty dollars through priority mail international.
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Remco, good thing you have folks like us who can supply you with things at better prices. If it can fit in padded envelop I can usually ship for not more than thirty dollars through priority mail international.
Precisely. And better yet, I always prefer first class international, since that really hasn't let me down at all in my nearly 20 years of international dealings.
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I like to use Amazon, because I can add items to my order that are not just toys. I've often tossed a figure or two into an order for books, movies, etc. $10.99 for a TBS figure isn't bad considering retail is 9.99 plus tax at many stores.
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I feel it's getting out of hand in pricing. I am getting out of that race and going back to2nd hand store buying used toys is for me and I gotten some good stuff from these places flea markets and specialty stores.
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For 12.99 I gotta admit I am gonna be very selective. Lord knows how much the six inch figures are gonna go too.
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Very, very selective.
I worry that action figures may not survive this.
Customizers are better off than other collectors, since since we can make a character if it intrigues us, but how long will the fodder last if the action figure market implodes?
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$13 is a crap ton of money but look at the quality your getting. They know kids don't play with figures anymore adults with money do so they make better figures. I grew up on POTF figures and I stopped collecting in 1999 I just now getting back and I'm blown away at the details in the saga legends and black series figures. I remember POTF figures were $5 all day but with the quality and inflation its not out of reason.
Although it will make internet prices soar even higher. If you can find figures in store $13 isn't completely outrageous but the scalpers clear the pegs and inflate the market to sell online. I've seen Ree Yees going for $20+ as well as the E.U figures its insane. The poachers are the reason I'm turned off on buying figures every store I go to has the same lame figures nobody wants anymore.
On the other hand higher prices may deter scalpers because no one will want to pay their price. So they won't clear the shelves knowing they won't sell at an even higher markup.
Hasbro has successfully created a starved market to justify the increased price. If they mass produced them they would be virtually worthless they need a happy medium that satisfies the demand and leaves them in the long run with more profit. Instead of what's happening now.
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At this point, I have to admit that action figures have priced themselves out of my comfort zone.
I am done.
I have enough figure fodder to customize for another 20 years or more so I can just make my own characters.
Ditto on vehicle and diorama fodder.
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I think a lot of folks will wait for sales or clearance now that they are going to this type of price point. I got out of doing one of each when they went to ten dollars a figure. Now they are going to thirteen and I see no end in sight. I can't wait to hear their answer to that question when Dan goes to Toy Fair. I bet we hear the same old thing cost of tooling, etc. they sure can't say its the cost of petroleum now as it has gone way down!
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$13 for that size is way too much, $8 was my limit. I quit collecting the 3.75" and got into the 6", which $20 is hard to swallow. If those go up anymore Im done with action figures.
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I have to say that with the base of $9.99 today i have to be selective with my purchases. If they do go to $13.99 that means i'll even be more selective. But it does mean that i will have to do more bargain hunting the Discount Box stores (I did find a great deal @ my local Ross for the Holidays) and the web.
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I don't know what to say, we are paying 12,99€ for EVERY 3,75" figures. :(
And what do we got? Wave 1 and 2 with all the problem they had, production errors, loose arms, blisters falling off.
The only stores with never figures are toys R us and a comic shop, but toys is to far away from where iam living and the figures at the comic shop cost 13,99€. The 6inch figures are at 25 - 30€, my girlfriend bought me the prototype Boba and paid 29,99€ for it.
Yeah it has become a real pain in the a** to collect SW Toys in some parts of germany.
Figures which never came here:
The Solo Twins Wave LC
The 2 Geonosis Battle Sets
The 2 Scanning Crew Sets
The New Speeder Bike 3,75"
CW Mandalorian Packs
You've been able to get some via internet, but the prices have been... well... you get the pictue. :'(
So, no i won't pay anymore than the curret price. Iam allready at my limit.
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With the way they are releasing new figures nowadays its not like you have to worry about them inundating the market!
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$13.99 is more than I am willing to pay. However, I would be very surprised to see that pricing point become the norm in the U.S. Also, as a number of folks have already noted, there are enough sales where you wouldn't have to pay that much for the bulk of the new figures that would be released.
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I did notice that over the weekend, when we went to 2 different Wal-marts in the area and they still had some figures @ 9.99, not a lot of them but a few.
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It is beginning to look like this might not be a Hasbro thing, but a retailer thing.