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Kenner / Hasbro Collecting => Legacy, Build a Droid, and Vintage Line => Topic started by: wraithnine on January 04, 2013, 08:05:12 AM

Title: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: wraithnine on January 04, 2013, 08:05:12 AM
its been confirmed by Paul at JTA  that the new B.A.D. Legacy line has been cancelled already !! ,WTF Hasbro? apparently vintage may fill the void until the new 3D releases when a new line will be announced .
hopefully the figures that have already been produced will make it to retail  ,but for Star Wars collectors this is very very bad news and hopefully not an omen that says 2013 is going to be worse than 2012.
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: Tamer on January 04, 2013, 08:20:59 AM
I had heard this through JediNews myself. I am gonna send a question to my Hasbro contact and ask them to confirm or deny this. I will let you know if they respond.
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: Wardog on January 04, 2013, 09:40:59 PM
It's been confirmed guys...2013 Legacy B.A.D is dead...gone....shown the door. 
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: Clonehead on January 04, 2013, 10:33:17 PM
dude, I was so looking forward to more bad parts. what could they offer to commemorate aotc 3d that we dont already have?
Nearly every eu figure that has been produced thus far has become an instant hit. How about an eu line? Not a wave but, a whole year worth of figures?
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: Tamer on January 05, 2013, 06:46:35 AM
I am still hearing rumors and nothing has been officially decreed by my Hasbro Contacts, but I do think there is merit to this. From what I understand now they are saying that the Vintage Line will make a return for a few more waves (fingers crossed for a Vintage Carded AT-AT Driver) and then they will do this down the road again.

It is definitely a head scratcher all around.
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: wraithnine on January 05, 2013, 07:27:45 AM
RebelScum are now showing this story on their front page as "Hasbro Confirmed"
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: Tamer on January 05, 2013, 07:31:13 AM
RebelScum are now showing this story on their front page as "Hasbro Confirmed"

They might have insider information Jay. I am not saying I do not believe it, but it has not been "offically confirmed."

I have never seen Rebelscum err in this regards. I am just trying to verify it through our source which evidently is not as timely or as revealing at RS'.
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: wraithnine on January 05, 2013, 07:38:14 AM
Paul at JTA intimated that they were told to keep stum about it ,but that there is hope on the horizon but he couldnt divulge what it was yet .but he did confirm that the Target news was not just for Target and that the whole line had bitten the bullet.
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: Tamer on January 05, 2013, 07:41:17 AM
Well I definitely trust Paul and Dan who have both confirmed it. Not sure why our Hasbro Contacts won't other than the embarrasment perhaps of admitting they are having some line issues. I will keep trying though. I am hoping they are going to give me a this is what we are going to do about it email, but we will just see.
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: DocOutlands on January 05, 2013, 10:01:42 AM
If I had my say, you'd have to delete it.  Someone is having problems with their action figures.  Someone needs to get their corporate head out of their...  Wait, -self-censored-!
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: Tamer on January 05, 2013, 10:59:07 AM
I hear you Doc and feel your pain. I have used the lull to get involved in higher end collecting and boy it does make you think about getting out of AF Collecting all together.
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: wraithnine on January 05, 2013, 11:11:42 AM
if i could afford i would ,i was hopeing to lay claim to that Cmdr Gree but some git got there first!...dammit!..lol(i do love my Battle droid mini bust (i keep annoying the crap outta my missus by constantly pressing the sound feature ...roger roger!) i need some good new as im off sick again ...thats nearly 3 months now (have to now go for and ECG as they are worried about my worsening condition).
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: Tamer on January 07, 2013, 08:03:31 AM
I just recieved official word;

"Star Wars fans,

 The Droid Factory line which was slated for spring 2013 has been cancelled.  We were very excited about this line at its inception and wanted to give fans an early sneak peek when we unveiled it at Star Wars Celebration this past summer.  Unfortunately since then, through the course of development, we realized that the price would have to be increased and we felt that the value we were adding with the droid parts was no longer substantiated. 

 As a result, we have decided to rework our 3.75” figure program to create a line that is on-par with the quality and pricing of the Vintage Collection.  Many of the figures  intended for the Droid Factory will become available in this new line in the fall.  We’ll be able to share more news on this at Toy Fair.

 We also recognize that there were many hard-to-find Vintage Collection figures in 2012.  So, as we shared last December, we will re-release many of these figures this spring before the Vintage Collection goes on hiatus, making way for some of the most exciting new initiatives for SW collectors in years.

 Thank you for your continued support and enthusiasm.

 Regards,

 The Hasbro Star Wars Team"

So there it is for  now.
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: Clonehead on January 07, 2013, 08:26:16 AM
Bah, those droid parts are so darned expensive. They had a chance to revitalize the line. Imagine how less the Phantom Menace Wave would have pegwarmed had they contained droid parts.
We hardly seen anything else for the rest of the year since those were setting there. didn't they raise the figure prices last year anyways?
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: Tamer on January 07, 2013, 08:34:07 AM
Yepper, those prices sure did raise in my area.

How much you wanna bet Disney said  you are not gonna raise figure price again so they had to do something different?
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: Phatty on January 07, 2013, 09:31:22 AM
It's funny to me, it really is.  In my area, we've had the same figures on the same pegs in the same stores since LAST January!  Occasionally, I've seen a newer figure here or there, but no real shipments in.  Prices continued to go up, but product availability was the absolute worst I've ever seen.  Now, they're cancelling entire series a week into the new year.  I'm sorry to say, but Disney has a LOT of work to do if they hope to regain their place in the market. 
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: Darth Optimus on January 07, 2013, 06:17:30 PM
I could not care less. I gave up on collecting Star Wars a few years ago when I simply could NOT find product to buy. Same thing happened with my Transformers collection several years before that. Now my collecting monies go towards fodder for customs.
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: Tamer on January 08, 2013, 04:20:56 AM
Things like this sure do help a collector decide on a focus thats for sure. I am wondering if my 3 and 3/4 days are over, but to be honest I am quite happy that we may see a few more Vintage Carded Figures.

I feel bad for the folks that wanted the B.A.D. pieces as I thought that was pretty good.
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: Wardog on January 08, 2013, 12:18:37 PM
Yep....i've just scaled right back and gave the kid around the corner a whole bag of figures for free.  I'm only going to keep a certain few.  I feel that my SW days are coming to an end.  I wasn't going to be buying any figures from the new films so once i do get the some from the OT that i'm after still i think i'll be calling it a day.
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: Tamer on January 08, 2013, 01:33:42 PM
Makes me sad to hear that, but I can surely understand it.
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: Wardog on January 08, 2013, 02:45:38 PM
Yeah i've been feeling disheartened for a while now due to a lack of decent product coming out...GOOD decent product at that.  I think at the end of the day i'll more than likely end up keeping Moisture Farm, Echo Base and Cloud City figures...the rest i won't be keeping.   
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: Phatty on January 08, 2013, 07:45:47 PM
I will admit that there were quite a few good TVC offerings in 2012.  However, I didn't see any of them at retail, so it was a moot point for me.  I've been continually disappointed with the mindless and cheapening drivel that Hasbro has been putting out; quality diminishing with each wave while cost continues to rise.  For a long time, I've been putting my money with Gentle Giant and Sideshow, because they were such excellent pieces.  But even now, costs are rising with them so much that I've been forced to cut way back on those as well.  My first Sideshow piece, the SDCC excl. Anakin Skywalker as Darth Vader from 2006, cost me $60.  My Boba Fett from this year cost me $175.  As much as I hate to admit it, while I won't count myself out of collecting entirely, it's now a casual consideration at best. 

But alas, upon the horizon, the promise of a new ownership and a whole new (2 new, if internet rumors are to be believed) trilogy brings with it the hope of new and better products.  So who knows what the future may hold.  All I know is, the present is terrible.
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: Wardog on January 08, 2013, 07:59:27 PM
Here in Australia we've been lucky with getting every wave of the VC (except for the last one of course).  The Starkiller wave can still be found on shelves here and you know why?....Because collectors are getting fed up and now with the B.A.D line being pulled a lot of collectors i talk to here have had it...they've stopped collecting and some have even started selling their collections online. 

Stores here either get a lot of new stock or get nothing for months.  The K-Mart near me hasn't had anything new since TPM VC wave...nothing, zip...nil.  Yet the Target around the corner has gotten the Malgus Wave and the Starkiller wave 3 times just before Christmas...they even have a Nom Anor still sitting there on the pegs...no one wants him  :o

It's shocking state of affairs really.  Collectors are dropping off the collecting radar more than ever now here in Australia.  Give it a few years i doubt there'll be many left...even with the new films!!!!!
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: Clonehead on January 08, 2013, 09:53:28 PM
whats the average figure prices in Australia now, Wardog?
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: Wardog on January 08, 2013, 10:32:52 PM
Well man that all depends on where you shop.  Generally stores like K-Mart and Target average out at $16.00 - $17.00 per figure.  Toys R Us have $20.00 on single carded figures.  Big W have them for $15.95 or there abouts.  Supermarkets are generally around the $18.00 mark per figure.
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: Clonehead on January 08, 2013, 10:49:01 PM
things haven't changed much over there other than availability. Man, those are some high prices.

I'm going to go out scouting for figures tomorrow. Do you think that I will find anything?
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: Wardog on January 08, 2013, 10:56:00 PM
Yeah the prices have pretty much stagnated for a while man.  They are high here compared to other countries which is why some collectors buy from overseas and avoid retail here.  Fingers crossed for you finding anything man.  What are you looking for?
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: Clonehead on January 08, 2013, 11:04:57 PM
Looking for the starkiller wave which you have and we cant find. Looking for that greatest hits of 2012 wave we have all heard rumors about and is supposed to replace the BAD line. and, looking for the new joe retaliation figures that shouldn't be out till next month but have surfaced in a couple of states already.

I've given up looking for a phase 2 cw fox. I think it's just a rumor that they ever produced it.

I may hit a second hand shop as well to scout for older sw or roc joes
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: Wardog on January 08, 2013, 11:07:05 PM
Mate i have the whole Starkiller wave...MINT condition too.  You want it?....trade wise.

Was CW Fox the phase 2 Clone with the red armour markings?....if so he's generally peg warming here man.
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: Clonehead on January 08, 2013, 11:17:30 PM
Yes mate, I would. I sent you a return pm.
yes, that is the fox that is peg warming your isles."sigh"
I can see I need to lower my shipping  cost on ebay to Australia so you guys can find a lower cost alternative.
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: Wardog on January 08, 2013, 11:25:48 PM
Man i saw the CW Fox guy on the weekend just gone man...i think my local Target had 3 of him on the pegs mixed in with the VC Nom wave.  Wollfe was there too.
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: Clonehead on January 08, 2013, 11:43:07 PM
we have seen the wolffes but for some reason, fox is hard for me to find. I just havent pulled the trigger on buying him online yet. There is a bootleg seller or two I could get him from, of course.

Man, I miss the BAD line.
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: Tamer on January 09, 2013, 03:43:10 AM
Consensus across FB and some of the other Fan Sites I have perused all seem to point to Disney wanting to keep B.A.D. exclusive to their parks.

I don't see why you would want to do that from a money making perspective, but thinking the B.A.D. pieces will get more people to go to Disney seems like a longshot to me. This might be the first fallout from Disney owning LucasFilm.
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: Clonehead on January 09, 2013, 03:48:57 AM
I was actually hoping we were going to see a global distribution of the exclusive disney figures. Seems like that would be a better course of action.
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: Tamer on January 09, 2013, 03:53:20 AM
I was actually hoping we were going to see a global distribution of the exclusive disney figures. Seems like that would be a better course of action.

Clint, I thought that might be the first thing we saw. At least expand it to one toy store like ToysRUs or something. This is all just speculation at this point. Most folks think the figures planned for this line will probably show up on the Green Yoda Cardback without the B.A.D. pieces.

Hopefully Toy Fair will shed some light like they hinted.
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: wraithnine on January 09, 2013, 04:11:10 AM
Clint I have spares of Cmdr Fox mate
Title: Re: The New 2013 BAD Line is DOA! have your say..
Post by: zedhatch on January 09, 2013, 04:06:43 PM
I haven't chimmed in on this except on Facebook, but really with this, the rumors of MU being cancelled, the supposid IM3 figs (That I keep preying are vehicle drivers or something) and all I haven't much hope for 2013 at this point.