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Title: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: spudafett on February 03, 2010, 12:11:04 AM
has anyone purchased this yet?  I almost got one today but I have some reservations about the walker...

(http://www.jumpwithu.com/apple/tbarf.JPG)

mainly I am not going to get this until I know how posable the walker is.  It looked to me from looking at it in the store that it only has articulated points at the hip and ankle on the walker.  If this is the case, I'm going to have to pass unless I find it cheap on sale somewhere.  I most definately would like to have one for customizing...

If anyone can get ahold of one of these I'd realy like to know what you think of it.  I havn't seen or heard anything about this pack and almost grabbed it just because of that....
Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: spudafett on February 03, 2010, 12:34:41 AM
yeah, I forgot to mention that it does look to be an entirely new sculpt. 

I know for sure that it isn't motorized.

the box said "articulated legs" but failed to point out just exactly WHERE they were articulated...

Also, from only looking at the unopened box I couldn't tell if the arf trooper was the same as the single carded version... I couldn't tell if it still had ball jointed hips, but I would asume it did.

I would realy like some verification on this package...  I'm kind of kicking myself for not getting it...
Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: clonemedic96 on February 03, 2010, 12:28:29 PM
it'd be nice if they released an ARF with a removable helmet
Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: Clonehead on February 03, 2010, 12:37:25 PM
You know, after you pointed out the "articulate legs" as is called out on the package I looked at my old ROTS ATRT and you are right. It is a different sculpt and the three visible joints on the legs do look different, inside and out. There is no mention of the motorized action of  the old ROTS release on the package either.
This has me excited that they truly gave us an articulated ATRT.
As far as ARF troopers with a removable helmet. Hasbro has mentioned making some of the characters from the "Landing at Point Rain" episode in the future. We can only hope that they make the Waxer and Boil from that episode with removable ARF helmets.
Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: spudafett on February 03, 2010, 12:45:24 PM
well, I've pretty much talked myself into getting this... I'll grab it tonight maybe and if I do I'll write a definitive review over it.
Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: CloneCommander Buy on February 03, 2010, 02:16:07 PM
can't wait for the review. I will get one of these when I find one. had the chance to get the ROTS ATRT  6 months ago, screwed up and waited to long.

How much  is this one?  and where did you see it?
Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: spudafett on February 03, 2010, 11:42:53 PM
Ok, I broke down and got it today.
Wal-mart still had just one, It was the only one I saw the previous day as well (honestly I was surprised it was still there).  It was hanging with the other "mini rig" packs including an anikin with desert skiff speeder, obi-wan and freeco bike, dooku and geonosian speeder, as well as a barc speeder I believe.

I grabbed this on my way to work today and had about 10minutes before I had to clock in by the time I got there so I went on and opened it up in the parking lot in my car to see what the deal with the legs were... I wasn't surprised but I'll admit I was disapointed.  I was hoping for at least 3 points of articulation on the legs, but there is only two. (I'll get back to that).

Once I got it home I pulled everything out.  again, this one comes with a nice little diorama cardboard backdrop.  This one is of a whole legion of battledroids in the background on geonosis.  As usual it was a battle with the packaging to get it out and not destroy the backdrop in the process, I'm sure that parents of young star wars fans are cursing hasbro for this rediculous packaging!  Seriously, it could be done so that it comes apart much better....

There is only one piece to the at-rt that needed "assymbly".  The antenaes on the back are disconected from the walker and snap into a hole behind the seat.  I was thinking I might have to glue the antenae in but it was surprisingly secure once snapped in place.

The next thing I did was check the arf trooper.  He's still got the ball jointed hips (which was a relief as I was a little worried).  I feel like hasbro actually did some thinking ahead when making the arf trooper and had planned this set all along, and thus was the reason for going on and making all the arf troopers with the ball jointed hips.  The figure fits beautifully on the walker, it couldn't work any better.  This is a major improvement over other vehicles in this set that I've seen.  We all have seen the problems with the dewback and sandtrooper....



More in a little bit (with pictures...)
Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: spudafett on February 04, 2010, 12:10:45 AM
ok, now lets scrutinize the walker itself a little bit.

The walker is realy well built actually, like I said it's very sturdy.  the paint apps are very clean and crisp. It looks exactly how it does in the clone wars episodes.  It has some arubesh writing on both sides of the walker, if anyone could translate it I'd appreciate it (I'm not fluent in arubesh! gasp! I know.... :( ). 

As for the articulation on the walker itself.  The handlebars pivot up and down at their base, this makes posing the rider very nice, giving it multiple driving poses.  The chin gun swivels 360 degrees as well as pivots up and down.  The legs are articulated at the "hips" and at the "ankles."
I would have liked to see at least ONE more point of articulation in the "knees."  You can sortof pose this thing in the "running" position but it hardly stands up. 

pictures:
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/034/1/8/at_rt_7_by_SpudaFett.jpg)
(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/034/5/8/at_rt_6_by_SpudaFett.jpg)
(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/034/4/0/at_rt_5_by_SpudaFett.jpg)
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/034/6/3/at_rt_4_by_SpudaFett.jpg)
(http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/034/8/d/at_rt_3_by_SpudaFett.jpg)
(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/034/c/3/at_rt_2_by_SpudaFett.jpg)
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/034/3/a/at_rt_1_by_SpudaFett.jpg)

more thoughts on improvements:
Something else I would have REALY liked to have seen would have been ball joints at the hips instead of the standard swivel.  This would have greatly increased it's posability.  I would have liked to see it be able to pose on one leg, with the current articulation there is no way that is possible.  Seeing the walker as it runs in the episode you can see the feet are falling almost dead center beneath the vehicle as well, this just isn't possible with the toy.

Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: spudafett on February 04, 2010, 12:19:37 AM
synopsis:

packaging: 5/10
(dificult to open, cardboard insert pretty useless as the walker with rider stands taller than the cardboard backdrop)

arf trooper pack in: 9.5/10
(I still think that the arf trooper is THE BEST TCW clone figure yet.  If it had a removable helmet it'd be perfect.)

Walker's Paint apps: 9/10
(I think they are spot on, the symbols and the slight weathering looks strait out of the series)

walker's construction: 8/10
(I think a little more care could have been put into the articulation of the legs, other than that it's perfect)

posability: 6/10
(limited articulation in the walker's legs limits the posible poses it's capable of.  However, the rider fits so well on the walker that he can actually be posed in several ddifferent "riding" postures)

overall:  8/10
Overall I think this is a realy realy good toy.  I was disapointed that it didn't have more points of articulation but I also expected that in this smaller scale.  The toy's construction is perfect.  I actually tried removing the legs at the hip joint and although I was able to pop them out it took ALOT of force.  kids are going to have a hard time breaking this one. 
The lacking articulation is probably so that it will hold up to child's play better.  I honestly think if it had the articulation similar to the at-st that kids would break it very quickly.

The price is a little steep though, at 15.99 I realy expected more.  I think 10.00 would have been a better price for all of these mini-rig sets honestly...
Well... I hope I answered everyone's questions.  Be expecting to see this thing get a majoy customizing overhaul as soon as I finish my current project! I already have an idea in mind on how to fix the articulation....
Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: droidbait on February 04, 2010, 12:36:10 AM
i still haven't got a ARF trooper lol but the walker is pretty nicely detailed
Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: spudafett on February 04, 2010, 12:37:56 AM
oh I forgot to mention something, looking back at the images I posted reminded me of this...

the chin guns of BOTH the at-rt and my chicken walker are bent from being in the package.  This is very frustrating for me.  I know tht with a little boiling in hot water bent clone wars guns accessories can be straitened out but how in the world am I suposed to fix these?

I understand that hasbro is using the softer rubbery plastic on these parts because it prevents kids from breaking the delicate parts, as they would easily do if they were more brittle plastic...  But for collectors, who open their stuff and put it on display, a bent gun like this is agrivating...

it's the little things like that that bother me as an adult collector...

again, for kids, NO PROBLEM, for me... I'm expecting more.
Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: RedLeaderOne (00fire501) on February 04, 2010, 04:46:42 AM
I like the look of this walker, can't wait to get one or tw0 or more of those.
Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: Clonehead on February 04, 2010, 07:52:08 AM
Thanks for the review, Spud! I had been wondering about this one. Too bad about the articulation. They could have added one more joint in there.
ok, now lets scrutinize the walker itself a little bit.

The walker is realy well built actually, like I said it's very sturdy.  the paint apps are very clean and crisp. It looks exactly how it does in the clone wars episodes.  It has some arubesh writing on both sides of the walker, if anyone could translate it I'd appreciate it (I'm not fluent in arubesh! gasp! I know.... :( ). 

As for the articulation on the walker itself.  The handlebars pivot up and down at their base, this makes posing the rider very nice, giving it multiple driving poses.  The chin gun swivels 360 degrees as well as pivots up and down.  The legs are articulated at the "hips" and at the "ankles."
I would have liked to see at least ONE more point of articulation in the "knees."  You can sortof pose this thing in the "running" position but it hardly stands up. 

pictures:
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/034/1/8/at_rt_7_by_SpudaFett.jpg)
(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/034/5/8/at_rt_6_by_SpudaFett.jpg)
(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/034/4/0/at_rt_5_by_SpudaFett.jpg)
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/034/6/3/at_rt_4_by_SpudaFett.jpg)
(http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/034/8/d/at_rt_3_by_SpudaFett.jpg)
(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/034/c/3/at_rt_2_by_SpudaFett.jpg)
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/034/3/a/at_rt_1_by_SpudaFett.jpg)

more thoughts on improvements:
Something else I would have REALY liked to have seen would have been ball joints at the hips instead of the standard swivel.  This would have greatly increased it's posability.  I would have liked to see it be able to pose on one leg, with the current articulation there is no way that is possible.  Seeing the walker as it runs in the episode you can see the feet are falling almost dead center beneath the vehicle as well, this just isn't possible with the toy.


Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: wraithnine on February 04, 2010, 08:13:03 AM
great review devin ,very  thorough
Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: Clone_General_1977 on February 04, 2010, 04:33:04 PM
Does the ARF have a removable helmet?
Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: Clonehead on February 04, 2010, 04:36:14 PM
Does the ARF have a removable helmet?
Nope, helmet is not removable.
Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: dana.raye.smith on February 04, 2010, 04:46:14 PM
I still want one.... it could be the worst thing ever built, and I would get 1 just to go with the other walkers.
I am glad it isnt the worst thing ever built though.
Nice pics and great review.
I might need 2 of these...
Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: lambonspit on February 04, 2010, 04:50:14 PM
Nice review Spud!!

Anyone correct me if im wrong, but i think the aurabesh says 'BEA' and at the back 'EO' and at the front there is the symbol for the letter 'T'. Don't know what they stand for and that really annoys me. At least make it make sense. When, and if, these come down to aus, ill probably get 1 to customise. Still prefer the kashyyyk camo ones though.
Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: spudafett on February 04, 2010, 10:33:15 PM
interesting thing about the arubesh I just noticed... it's a mirror image of the oposite side's markings.  look at my images of the left and right sides, they mirror each other...  shouldn't the writing be oposite so that when viewed from either side it reads left to right?
Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: Clonehead on February 04, 2010, 10:35:00 PM
Good point.  How odd. Got this one on the front page. Time for Tamer to put it in the archives.
Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: Clone_General_1977 on February 04, 2010, 10:38:06 PM
right on Clint.
Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: TheCloneCommander on February 04, 2010, 11:21:31 PM
interesting thing about the arubesh I just noticed... it's a mirror image of the oposite side's markings.  look at my images of the left and right sides, they mirror each other...  shouldn't the writing be oposite so that when viewed from either side it reads left to right?

maybe they have rear view mirrors? so you can see whats coming from behind like the fire department.... ;D ;)
Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: Tamer on February 05, 2010, 09:11:28 AM
Great review, I will try to get it up in our front page archives section sometime soon.
Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: Tamer on February 05, 2010, 02:12:29 PM
Got this loaded up to the front page review section today.
Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: EliteVideoCore on February 05, 2010, 03:52:03 PM
Again, Clone Wars  articulation =  :(
Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: Irish Ninja 97 on February 09, 2010, 10:21:37 PM
Spud, I figured out what the Aruebesh on the walker was. The letters come out as BEA. I don't know if thats supposed to mean or stand for something.

                       Jack
Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: poucher on February 25, 2010, 11:55:54 AM
spuda fett can you tell me if thats bigger than the rots version because i was kind of thinking geting it. i think the easy kit one is the best what do you think.if you could modify it would you , i think if you take one of the guns of the legacy atst and take the the chin gun and try and stik it on .
Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: caprex12 on February 25, 2010, 04:56:52 PM
awesome dude that is awesome i might  get one later
Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: spudafett on February 28, 2010, 10:49:33 PM
spuda fett can you tell me if thats bigger than the rots version because i was kind of thinking geting it. i think the easy kit one is the best what do you think.if you could modify it would you , i think if you take one of the guns of the legacy atst and take the the chin gun and try and stik it on .

it's smaller than the ROTS one.  the easy kit model is the best version of the walker.  I would buy the easy kit version before trying to modify this one. 

the at-st guns are way to big for this little guy as well. 
Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: JonCC-1004 on March 01, 2010, 02:03:52 PM
I picked this AT-RT up on Friday really nice I might actually get a few more. Only weird thing is on the back there is a big space in the mold however I am thinking it would be good to make some gun holders for in there.

Jon
Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: dana.raye.smith on March 01, 2010, 06:22:02 PM
That big space you mention is oddly enough just the size of one of the big chainguns included with the single carded ARF troopers.
I put one there pointed downward. It will fit either way, but it looks best to me pointed down.
Not sure if that was planned on Hasbro's part or not, but it works for me.
Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: spudafett on March 01, 2010, 10:51:11 PM
That big space you mention is oddly enough just the size of one of the big chainguns included with the single carded ARF troopers.
I put one there pointed downward. It will fit either way, but it looks best to me pointed down.
Not sure if that was planned on Hasbro's part or not, but it works for me.

could you get a picture of that?  I'd like to see how you have it oriented.
Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: Clonehead on March 06, 2010, 08:45:16 PM
I finally got my ATRT pack today and noticed the size difference from the ROTS release right off the bat.

In the pics, the one on the left is the ROTS version, the middle is the new CW version, and on the right, you have the Revel easy kit like Fiala has showed us.

Yes, they could have taken the leg articulation a bit further with this latest release.
Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: Tamer on March 07, 2010, 05:37:58 AM
Which do you think is the best example Clint? From here it looks like the Revell model might be the best.
Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: Clonehead on March 07, 2010, 05:45:39 AM
Probably so, buddy, especially with it's better leg articulation. Some surgery would be required to the new one to make it pose as well. A leg swap could be possible but it wouldn't look quite right.

At least the new one came with a decent figure. I always did like the ARF trooper.
Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: spudafett on March 07, 2010, 06:50:27 PM
Probably so, buddy, especially with it's better leg articulation. Some surgery would be required to the new one to make it pose as well. A leg swap could be possible but it wouldn't look quite right.

At least the new one came with a decent figure. I always did like the ARF trooper.

I agree.  I think the toy is a good blend for being a toy.  The revel model kit however would have been my choice to get had I realized it sooner.  I'll probably get the revel kit and give the toy to the kids. 
The only realy good thing was it coming with the arf trooper, however I'd have liked to see a repainted one instead of the one we already have.
Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: CaptainLux on March 18, 2010, 04:53:24 PM
nice walker, like it!
Title: Re: TCW at-rt with arf trooper
Post by: dana.raye.smith on March 23, 2010, 06:26:42 PM
I had the BIG GUN Z-6 Rotary cannon or whatever placed on the back of the AT-RT handle up and backward , barrel down...
having trouble getting pics... but Sithlord229 has done a great review on youtube with a link here on the yards... and he has a gun stored on it the same way as I had set up mine...
If you still needed a visual on  this any way.
Sorry about the delay.... busy sometimes.... with the family...and  life .....and work .....and..... well.....
i am pretty lazy too sometimes...