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Title: TCW Clone Commander Stone
Post by: wraithnine on January 18, 2010, 07:33:47 AM
hello everyone this is my first review on the yards  but it will also be backed up with a video review on my youtube channel .

well lets get started shall we ..

i received this figure from the Ebay seller Tunghori
Cmdr Stone appeared in Clone Wars season 1 in an episode called "The Gungan General"

There have been rumours about a new sculpt and the loss of articulation:well i can confirm these rumours to be true ....

they have apart from the helmet  resculpted the entire figure  unfortunatley i believe they have also ruined  what had the potential to be one of the best clone figures of the Clone Wars line  

ARTICULATION:
the original clone had ball jointed: head,shoulders,elbows,torso,wrists,knees and ankles .with swivel hips
clone cmdr stone  has ball jointed: head,shoulders,elbows and knees with swivel hips, wrists and waist  and no articulation in the ankles! by removing the ball jointed ankles and waist Hasbro has seriously limited the posability of this figure .and thus turned a possible stunning figure into a damp squib. definatley 3 steps forward and 4 back.

the head is a new sculpt and looks a little bit squashed and is touch smaller than the Rex/Matchstick head but the facial sculpt is excellent .
(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn93/nosaj37/18012010124.jpg)  (http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn93/nosaj37/18012010126.jpg)

in the comparison shots you'll see that the legs are thicker but the arms are skinnier! also they have a much narrower stance and he is difficult to stand even in "parade ground"stance but if you wish to pose him in any other way without a stand ..2 words...forget it!
(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn93/nosaj37/18012010107.jpg)  (http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn93/nosaj37/18012010108.jpg)
(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn93/nosaj37/18012010113.jpg)  (http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn93/nosaj37/18012010115.jpg)

the paint apps are generally crisp and precise with the odd one or two mistakes , all stones tattoos are there altho the "53" on his head should be black not grey.
(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn93/nosaj37/18012010130.jpg)  (http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn93/nosaj37/18012010126.jpg)
(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn93/nosaj37/18012010116.jpg)  (http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn93/nosaj37/18012010114.jpg)

the holsters have also been resculpted and given added depth to better accomodate the dc-17 pistols ,stone also comes with the new sculpt rifle with is thicker and longer ,but due to the loss of ball hinged wrists posing him with it is awkward .
(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn93/nosaj37/18012010112.jpg)  (http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn93/nosaj37/18012010131.jpg)
(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn93/nosaj37/18012010132.jpg)  (http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn93/nosaj37/18012010133.jpg)

overall i believe this figure to be a monumental cock up by hasbro so much potential wasted...lets just pray this doesn't become the standard clone body because mine had real trouble just standing up!
so i give this figure 6.5/10   "nice one Hasbro you just shot the goose that lays the golden eggs!"

Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: clonemedic96 on January 18, 2010, 08:00:41 AM
great review wraith, but god i hope this isnt the road hasbro is gonna go down, i never even cared how skinny the legs were or anything (although i do like the new rifle), so this is a total waste for hasbro to do unless there was a big movement about their freaking legs
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: wraithnine on January 18, 2010, 08:01:59 AM
same here like the rifle
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: UnitedStatesDemocrat on January 18, 2010, 08:06:10 AM
I was thinking about buying one, but after that review, the chances are slim.  Great review, Jay!
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: Tamer on January 18, 2010, 08:17:05 AM
Excellent review, why does Hasbro always ruin what could be great new troopers? I am reminded of the Fi Skirata from the Evo set. They had the potential to just blow the doors off this figure and they just didn't super arty him. Now they have a super arty sculpt that folks like and they make a new one that isn't? Why in the world would they do that!
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: Tamer on January 18, 2010, 08:28:22 AM
On the front page, this one will aslo get housed in our review section. Nice one Jay.
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: 110clones on January 18, 2010, 08:46:00 AM
Wow that figure sux accept for that rifle and the helmet.
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: Clone_General_1977 on January 18, 2010, 10:06:58 AM
I ordered my Stone off of ebay. I only have it to be able to put it with my collection. I want to buy the carded one on down the road, just like Bly.
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: FialaFernbrugg on January 18, 2010, 11:03:36 AM
Thanks a lot for this detailed review Jay. I must say this figure could be better but I'm  looking forward to pick this one up.
The paintjob looks great and I like that new rifle design.
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: Squirepec7 on January 18, 2010, 11:47:22 AM
Wow that figure is horrible. I would only buy him for my collection and to be carded, maybe spud or someone could be able to fix everything though....
(Squirepec runs to get his tools and checkbook.)
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: 110clones on January 18, 2010, 11:52:31 AM
You made a custom of him.Your custom looks so much better than piece of crappy plastic.
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: Clonehead on January 18, 2010, 12:37:15 PM
No torso or ankle articulation? Now that is a serious bummer. Wonder why they changed the rifle sculpt?
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: dana.raye.smith on January 18, 2010, 01:11:57 PM
Why would they change anything?
Especially if it puts the figure behind the already established norm for these figs?
No wrist or torso or feet articulation?
that really explains the brnd new sculpt... waste of effort on their part...
But he still looks nice... still might have to pick this one up...
Nice picks and review W9.
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: Squirepec7 on January 18, 2010, 04:19:55 PM
No torso or ankle articulation? Now that is a serious bummer. Wonder why they changed the rifle sculpt?
The rifle sculpt was put in first with the two-pack thire figure. I think its really cool.
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: Ironhide on January 18, 2010, 05:44:05 PM
This is a major let down. I had hopes of interchanging parts with the old sculpt. Looks like this might not happen. First thing I do when I get one of these is swap out the lower legs and the hands with an old clone to see if it can be done. Why make new holsters instead of using the part  from the Waxer figure? These new ones do not look screen accurate. I do however like the corrected elbow pads and shoulder pads that don't show the hinge.

Thanks for the review.
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: wraithnine on January 18, 2010, 05:55:33 PM
problem is the neck post is different from gree and rex/cody/ponds and matchstick so unless your up for major surgery head swaps are out  ,arms are also too skinny   and he cant really be seated as there isnt enough travel on the swivel hips, the leg stance gap is really narrow  i.e you have absolutley NO chance of getting him in the freeco speeder or on a BARC speeder,  belt is unswappable its like hasbro have gone outta their way to really screw clone customisers with this figure. :-[ :-\ >:(
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: JonCC-1004 on January 18, 2010, 06:00:25 PM
Great review on a figure I will probably only buy for my kids. The lack of articulation really bums me out. I originally got into TCW fig's for the super articulation and then the ARF troopers with the ball hinged hips made me think that Hasbro had made the perfect figure. To take away points of articulation is STUPID and only serves to save THEM money at OUR cost! If that fig. was going to cost me $3.99 I might get one, as is I will get one for my son but thats about it.
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: SithLord229 on January 19, 2010, 09:01:39 AM
Not as bad as I expected. (For a stand to attention-on a shelf figure). I won't be posing this one anyway so the lack of articulation doesn't bother me, but it does to an extent where I don't see Hasbro's logic in doing it. Fair enough they had to make some budget cuts by creating a new sculpt, but if a new sculpt meant less articulation, they should have stuck with the old one, there was nothing wrong with it.

I like the facial sculpt... if it looked like every other clone in my collection. His face when compared to Ponds is so different anyone would think they weren't clones but 2 different individuals altogether. Needless to say his helmet will be staying on when I get him.

Looks like Bly will be the last "good" clone we get from the line till the new sculpt paves the way for the rest of the GAR ranks.

FAIL Hasbro, of epic proportions!
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: Tamer on January 19, 2010, 10:30:47 AM
Lets just hope this new body won't be the standard one they use from here on out. Doubt it though.
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: Ultimate Durge on January 21, 2010, 06:43:55 PM
Maybee this guy you bouth it from made it in his garage hahaha
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: spudafett on January 25, 2010, 01:29:33 AM
Wow that figure is horrible. I would only buy him for my collection and to be carded, maybe spud or someone could be able to fix everything though....
(Squirepec runs to get his tools and checkbook.)


the only way to make the fix worthwile would be get the figure for the helmet and head(or not purchase that figure at all and boycot it, find a suitable helmet and head from another better figure and deal with the lack of tatoos) and swap out the head and helmet onto an arf trooper body...  then paint to match the correct color scheme.

I could do the part swapping and building the figure but there is no way that I'd be able to get the paint to look as good as a stock figure with that many tiny details....   which could be another reason hasbro went with a new sculpt that would cut tooling costs, because the detailing is so small and precise. 

which brings up a good hasbro question, How do they put on those tiny details in the factory?! is it hand painted or are they some kind of super secret decal/transfer that is applied by hand?  or is it all done by a machine?  and if by a machine is it paint or is it a transfer of some kind....?
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: Ultimate Durge on January 26, 2010, 02:53:53 AM
i dont know if you guys seen this

http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-Clone-Wars-Animated-COMMANDER-STONE-In-Hand_W0QQitemZ280455809334QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item414c780936
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: SithLord229 on January 29, 2010, 06:10:03 AM
Just received this guy in the mail from staractionfigures.co.uk
Had a little chuckle to myself that the Nahdar sticker is on the packaging when we in the UK already have him... muhahahahaha!
Ahem, anyway, Stone isn't as bad as I thought he would be.
Appearance-wise, he slaughters the other Clones, he looks wicked! Only problem is his head doesn't fit in with the rest of the clones that have been made.
He stands pretty well & as Jay pointed out in his review, one leg is NOT longer than the other (at least on this version, which leads me to thinking that Jays was a prototype since it came from a foreign eBay seller).
He can hold his helmet under his arm with no problems other than he can't hold the rim thanks to the lack of hinges in the wrist.
Paint apps are excellent & the sculpt, from a display point of view is terrific, from a play value point of view he's not so great due to the lack of articulation.
I'm pleased with him though & I think once people have the official release of this guy in their hands, they will soon see that the "Terrible, Awful" comments that this fella got are merely just exaggerations as he is, to an extent, a pretty OK figure.

Still, Hasbro shouldn't have replaced the sculpt! LOL
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: Dael on January 29, 2010, 06:41:07 AM
If it wasn't for the lack of articulations, I think he would be quite okay since Hasbro corrected the elbow pad thingy . Just compare the pictures below :) .
(I hope Jay's doesn't mind me using his pic as a reference)

(http://i45.tinypic.com/24vruq8.jpg)
Check out the elbow pads on the clones on the left and on the right .

(http://i49.tinypic.com/2itt1ft.jpg)
Compared to Commander Stone's figure . Viola ! *pats Hasbro on the back* .
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: EliteVideoCore on January 31, 2010, 08:09:32 AM
NO ANKLES?! *smashes face against computer monitor* Those legs do look awkward...
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: CloneCaptainV2224 on February 01, 2010, 03:00:15 PM
when u read this, u will have a bad day, LoL.
well i believe that this will be the standard clone body for 2010, it happened the same in 2008-2009 when they released at the 212th attack battalion trooper the new helmet sculpt and it remained the helmet sculpt and will remain for ever. i believe this is the new Clone sculpt which SUCKS!!!!!
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: Tamer on February 03, 2010, 11:42:45 AM
We have some clarification about whether this will be the new definitive tooling for all newer clones. It is over in the Hasbro Q and A thread.
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: EliteVideoCore on February 05, 2010, 04:08:46 PM
(http://://i421.photobucket.com/albums/pp297/MaxPwner/VaderNOOOOO.gif)  I sure hope hasbro smartens up.... for there sake.... Foolish toy designers don't know the power of the DARK SIDE vadsab
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: poucher on February 07, 2010, 11:43:51 AM
im sorry but cant people just make a custom super arty version
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: poucher on February 07, 2010, 12:11:38 PM
i was a bit cheaky there wasnt i sorry but  you got to admit it was a brilliant review but the coolness looks mint and it is good for kids like me evan those i am a 10 year old i still play with my toys so it is good for me
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: EliteVideoCore on February 09, 2010, 02:41:07 PM
im sorry but cant people just make a custom super arty version
I suppose, buddy but the trouble is hollowing out the thigh plates to slide onto the new super arty leg..... It't a thought, though. Spud, Stitch . . . waddayasay, give it a shot? 8)
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: Squirepec7 on February 09, 2010, 07:50:15 PM
im sorry but cant people just make a custom super arty version
I suppose, buddy but he trouble is hollowing out the thigh plates to slide onto the new super arty leg..... It't a thought, though. Spud, Stitch . . . waddayasay, give it a shot? 8)
This sounds like a great big challange for anyone and I say to heck with it buy him and forget about it.
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: Dael on February 10, 2010, 09:16:41 AM
I guess he would be good MOSC (Mint On Sealed Card) . Unless a mod is done to make him more pose-able , methinks he would look better in his plastic prison . I really can't get over his legs, is he holding his bladder or something ? My 2cts worth  :P .
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: EliteVideoCore on February 14, 2010, 02:51:13 PM
I saw this at wal-mart along with the rest of the wave . . . . . I decided to pass.
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: Echo5s on February 14, 2010, 07:08:10 PM
Excuse me to ask but im just starting to get in to customiszing figures instead of collecting because i cannot simply find the figures in the stores... the question is, how are you to remove the legs and such? that would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: Squirepec7 on February 14, 2010, 08:18:26 PM
Excuse me to ask but im just starting to get in to customiszing figures instead of collecting because i cannot simply find the figures in the stores... the question is, how are you to remove the legs and such? that would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
Boil and Pop. For more detailed instructions ask our resident custom psychopat.....erm.... uh... I mean custom Genious Spudafett.
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: Echo5s on February 15, 2010, 07:42:11 AM
Thanks very much I shall try it out now. bbfet
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: EliteVideoCore on February 16, 2010, 02:40:32 PM
Thanks very much I shall try it out now. bbfet
Love to see how it works out, buddy!  ;D
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: Echo5s on February 16, 2010, 04:19:36 PM
He's bulky, pretty well detailed, poorly articulated, and well a clone... they are some pros and cons....id give it a 5 out of 10...
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: Echo5s on February 18, 2010, 01:22:38 PM
I think we need to write another petition to bring back super articulation!
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: clone3379 on February 20, 2010, 09:22:13 AM
this figure sucks only rely good thing about it is the paint job and the gun you sould recall that fig and make a better  one
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: UnitedStatesDemocrat on February 20, 2010, 01:17:17 PM
I was trying to choose between this, and an Argyus, and I went with the Argyus thanks to Jay's awesome review!
Title: Re: The Clone Wars Clone Commander Stone
Post by: Clonehead on February 22, 2010, 12:03:38 PM
I was trying to choose between this, and an Argyus, and I went with the Argyus thanks to Jay's awesome review!
arggggg, I still need to find that non arty stone.
Title: Re: TCW Clone Commander Stone
Post by: clone3379 on March 02, 2010, 02:42:50 PM

wow this guy is sorry i wonder why they made a new gun sculpt and new body sculpt?
Title: Re: TCW Clone Commander Stone
Post by: Darth Abshir on April 11, 2010, 11:59:03 AM
Absolutely going to have this guy carded :(
Title: Re: TCW Clone Commander Stone
Post by: commanderCharlie on April 22, 2010, 07:11:05 PM
you know I got him in feb and he is not that bad he is not so hard to stand up and I like the un flimsy rifle.
Title: Re: TCW Clone Commander Stone
Post by: Clonehead on April 22, 2010, 08:11:11 PM
Still cant find one of these.
Title: Re: TCW Clone Commander Stone
Post by: commanderCharlie on April 23, 2010, 05:33:28 AM
you know if I find one I can send it to you . You can pm me your adress if i find one.
Title: Re: TCW Clone Commander Stone
Post by: Clonehead on April 23, 2010, 07:51:58 AM
Thanks a million, Charlie!
Title: Re: TCW Clone Commander Stone
Post by: commanderCharlie on April 23, 2010, 02:52:19 PM
hey isn't that what a yards members do?
Title: Re: TCW Clone Commander Stone
Post by: Clonehead on April 23, 2010, 02:59:25 PM
hey isn't that what a yards members do?
Yes sir, that is exactly what we do.