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Title: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: Tamer on April 16, 2017, 04:05:24 AM
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We’re thrilled to announce that the Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote will return at Star Wars Celebration this weekend, and we’d love for you to be a part of it! Last year, fans from all over were able to cast their vote on the Star Wars character they wanted to be transformed into a 6-inch figure in The Black Series line, leading to a new Jaina Solo figure available this fall.
 
We need the fans’ help again this year, and we’re hoping you’ll join us in hosting the vote! All of the details are listed below:

·         Fans can only submit 1 vote per email address or social handle through Wednesday, 4/19
·         The top 6 vote results need to be submitted to me by 12pm ET on Friday, 4/21
·         Similar to last year, the final vote will be held on StarWars.com
·         Any characters from the Star Wars Rebels or Star Wars: The Clone Wars animated series will be sculpted in the realistic style of The Black Series line

Thank you to everyone who has already agreed to host the Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote! We have an exciting update to this year’s vote – the winning Star Wars character will be transformed into a 3.75-inch figure in The Black Series line!

UPDATE: To confirm, the winning character will be transformed into a 3.75-inch figure in The Vintage Collection line – there will not be a 6-inch figure in The Black Series line made this year.

Now as far as how the poll will work:

Email me (tamer@imperialshipyards.net) with the subject line:

"TVC FAN FIGURE VOTE"

Remember only one vote per email address and I will update this message to reflect the current standings as time allows.

Character Choices and Vote (I will update this as time allows):

Admiral Gorin
Admiral Natasi Daala (Jedi Academy Trilogy depiction)
Admiral Raddus
Admiral Trench - Cyborg (TCW)
Agent Kallus
Ahsoka Tano from Rebelsx3
Asajj Ventress (TCW)
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Ben Skywalker From Legendsx34
Boba Fett - Holiday Special
Bo Katanx4
Clegg Lars (AOTC)
Corran Horn
Corran Horn in the green flightsuit
D'Harhan
Darth Talonx2
Dash Rendarx6
Dexter Jetster
Doctor Aphrax4
Embo. Bounty hunter from Clone Warsx2
Evil Barriss Offeé (TCW)
Finn
Fivesx3
Galen Erso (Lah'mu outfit)
General Davits Draven
General Leia (TFA)
Grand Admiral Rae Sloane
Hera Syndulla
Jaxxonx3
Kam Solusar
Lando Calrissian from The Empire Strikes
Lor San Tekka - Force Awakensx2
Old Dass Jennir
Poe Dameron Jakku
Pong Krellx7
Princess Leia - Celebration Outfit at the end of A New Hope
Red Leader X-Wing pilot from A New Hope
Republic Commando Gregor from Clone Wars with removable helmetx5
Riyo Chuchi Clone warsx2
Rogue One Rebel SpecForce Commandox2
Satele Shanx2
Sim Aloox5
Tahiri Veila (Legacy of the Force)
Tenel Ka
Tzizvvt (aka snail head) cantina alienx3
Tonnika Sistersx4
Yakface
Yotts Orren
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: Tamer on April 17, 2017, 12:18:51 PM
I have never gotten so many emails in my life! This is how many I have gotten through so far, but I have many more to go!

It is so cool to see how much reaction to this there is.

Also, be aware this fans choice poll will only be made into a 3.75" figure, not a 6" too as some were alluding too!
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: Tamer on April 18, 2017, 02:27:33 AM
Updated again. Wow, just a ton of great characters.
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: Tamer on April 19, 2017, 02:46:46 AM
I got through more emails. We have a great list going here.
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: JDeck on April 19, 2017, 08:29:33 AM
Is this the vote, or the nomination list? I can't see how Ben Skywalker is getting so many votes. There's a widespread trolling campaign, trying to get Ben Skywalker to win. Some might be legit, don't get me wrong, but I think we've been compromised. Seriously when do we get this many votes on anything.
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: mr.Jedi1977 on April 19, 2017, 01:27:10 PM
Is this the vote, or the nomination list? I can't see how Ben Skywalker is getting so many votes. There's a widespread trolling campaign, trying to get Ben Skywalker to win. Some might be legit, don't get me wrong, but I think we've been compromised. Seriously when do we get this many votes on anything.

This is true as this was mentioned on another site that they were compromised ,as Ben Skywalker got the majority of the votes over there. This need to be somehow reported and corrected .
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: JDeck on April 19, 2017, 02:36:26 PM
Is this the vote, or the nomination list? I can't see how Ben Skywalker is getting so many votes. There's a widespread trolling campaign, trying to get Ben Skywalker to win. Some might be legit, don't get me wrong, but I think we've been compromised. Seriously when do we get this many votes on anything.

This is true as this was mentioned on another site that they were compromised ,as Ben Skywalker got the majority of the votes over there. This need to be somehow reported and corrected .
   Yes it has been confirmed. A group of people calling themselves the Black sun along with others are trolling the sites voting for Ben Skywalker.
I say the nomination is void.
Just out of curiosity why did we go from members only votes to email. Seems like asking for something like this to happen.
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Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: tetsuoswrath on April 19, 2017, 03:41:46 PM
I hope Ben Skywalker or Anakin Solo wins. :{D
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: Rezikai on April 19, 2017, 10:34:21 PM
Is this the vote, or the nomination list? I can't see how Ben Skywalker is getting so many votes. There's a widespread trolling campaign, trying to get Ben Skywalker to win. Some might be legit, don't get me wrong, but I think we've been compromised. Seriously when do we get this many votes on anything.

This is true as this was mentioned on another site that they were compromised ,as Ben Skywalker got the majority of the votes over there. This need to be somehow reported and corrected .
   Yes it has been confirmed. A group of people calling themselves the Black sun along with others are trolling the sites voting for Ben Skywalker.
I say the nomination is void.
Just out of curiosity why did we go from members only votes to email. Seems like asking for something like this to happen.
.

Yea read about it on JTA's posts and Paul was comparing it to the Jaina Solo campaign last year. I have a bad feeling that figure will pegwarm hard if it hits mass retail. Heck Revan still hasn't hit mass retail but most of the 6" guys I talk to are iffy on even getting it.

Sucks that people are taking advantage of a goodhearted poll as fodder for the oldEU vs. Disney war.

I voted for Dr. Aphra btw... a new EU character. Have at ye ...
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: Commander_Kurgan on April 19, 2017, 10:57:17 PM
To be honest, untill yesterday I had no idea who the hell Ben Skywalker is supposed to be.
I also had no idea about this Black Sun troll campaign.
My vote goes to the Rogue One Rebel SpecForce Commando, hopefully modelled on Private Calfor.
It might not be everybody's choice, but at least it is not a troll operation.

I have no idea where these people come from and if I had a say in this, I would not forward Ben Skywalker to Hasbro for further consideration.
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: Tamer on April 20, 2017, 02:36:15 AM
Folks, I will be creating a poll of the top 25 choices emailed to me later this morning and creating a poll for members here to vote. Don't you guys know this ain't my first bicycle ride?

Yes, the nominees came from emails, but the actual vote for the top 6 will come from the forum members here. And please folks, this is a chance to have our voice heard for the positive, lets not make this negative. We get the chance to get a new 3.75" action figure of our choosing!
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: CloneCrazy on April 20, 2017, 03:04:02 AM
Folks, I will be creating a poll of the top 25 choices emailed to me later this morning and creating a poll for members here to vote. Don't you guys know this ain't my first bicycle ride?

Yes, the nominees came from emails, but the actual vote for the top 6 will come from the forum members here. And please folks, this is a chance to have our voice heard for the positive, lets not make this negative. We get the chance to get a new 3.75" action figure of our choosing!

Great plan and well said, Tamer! Thanks for all you do, buddy!
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: Tamer on April 20, 2017, 03:06:02 AM
No problem. I just want to keep this positive and make sure folks know we want to make sure the vote is representative of the Shipyards, not the internet at large as we all know how that can be!
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: Tamer on April 20, 2017, 03:40:02 AM
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Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: darthdaddy on April 20, 2017, 05:31:05 AM
Definitely a shame that this poll was hacked once more.  Really selfish of the people doing this Black Sun campaign.
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: JDeck on April 20, 2017, 05:37:48 AM

  You guys picked some really great characters, im second guessing my own pick. An updated non heman Dash Rendar would be cool, but I think he can easily be brought into canon like Thrawn. Agent Kallus I've been wanting him for a long time, even the 5poa version is impossible to get.
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: CloneSniper78 on April 20, 2017, 10:32:06 AM
Tannika Sisters!
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: Tamer on April 20, 2017, 10:46:34 AM
I am glad folks are enjoying the character choices. What we have now is a lot more indicative of what the folks here want.

Remember folks to spread the word. We want as many voters at we can get!
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: tetsuoswrath on April 20, 2017, 03:37:20 PM
I think that isn't true about the Ben Skywalker thing being fake/cheating/trolls.

I think Disney just doesn't want us to have Legends figures.

And ALL the EU figures sell out fast so you know it's win win for Hasbro.

I hope I hope I hope Ben Skywalker wins! :{D
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: JDeck on April 20, 2017, 03:41:12 PM
I know for an absolute fact it is. Most likely you'll get your wish. Special thanks to todays noobs.
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: tetsuoswrath on April 20, 2017, 04:18:16 PM
I know for an absolute fact it is. Most likely you'll get your wish. Special thanks to todays noobs.

How? :{
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: JDeck on April 20, 2017, 04:27:15 PM
I really honestly don't want to get into it. Its a known fact. Look around at other sites.
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: tetsuoswrath on April 20, 2017, 04:32:14 PM
I really honestly don't want to get into it. Its a known fact. Look around at other sites.

That isn't "knowing for a fact" though, that's your opinion.

My opinion is that the Pro Disney fans that hate the Lucas EU are the ones cheating.

Look at all the hate a supposedly unknown character like Ben is getting.

That's suspicious AF. :{

EDIT: I'm not trying to be confrontational though. I just see all the Lucas EU hate as detrimental to the franchise. :{
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: mr.Jedi1977 on April 20, 2017, 06:26:00 PM
I really honestly don't want to get into it. Its a known fact. Look around at other sites.

That isn't "knowing for a fact" though, that's your opinion.


My opinion is that the Pro Disney fans that hate the Lucas EU are the ones cheating.

Look at all the hate a supposedly unknown character like Ben is getting.

That's suspicious AF. :{

EDIT: I'm not trying to be confrontational though. I just see all the Lucas EU hate as detrimental to the franchise. :{

Tetsuoswrath first i don't want to get into a text war and i want to keep this friendly thats what this site is for a place to show your work and love for the hobby without all the negativity . I am going to say that everybody is entitled to their opinion. But i think you are missing the whole point and keep pushing this ben skywalker issue  . How could on every site offering this poll could Ben Skywalker have mid to high  votes and be winning ? I don't think i have ever seen any character (popular) get that high of a vote.  While he could be a legit character  in the poll i don't buy  the  number of votes .Everyone should vote to who they want but not by being hacked from an outside source. I am just a big a fan of the eu starting with the Heir to the empire  series , To Tales of the jedi and so fourth . I was very unhappy when they erased the whole line but there's some good stuff Disney is doing to. . But i can think of a bunch of Much better characters to be in the poll instead of Ben Skywalker, such as a revised Ulic Qel Droma or an Exar Kun. IMO This is the 40th anniversary of star wars why Not just get some of the key characters that haven been produced yet  from the original line out of the way on a vintage card to kick off and celebrate the return of a great line  for us 3.75 collectors .Then  some of those other characters could be produced at a later time .  This is what we have be waiting for  and these hackers are already setting us up to fail  and cause more complaining making us look like we will never be satisfied  even when we got what we wanted . Its a good bet Hasbro and anyone else running this poll have been notified of the outside interference  .I personally hope Ben Gets eliminated from the poll all together .  Just saying
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: tetsuoswrath on April 20, 2017, 06:46:50 PM
Tetsuoswrath first i don't want to get into a text war and i want to keep this friendly thats what this site is for a place to show your work and love for the hobby without all the negativity . I am going to say that everybody is entitled to their opinion. But i think you are missing the whole point and keep pushing this ben skywalker issue  . How could on every site offering this poll could Ben Skywalker have mid to high  votes and be winning ? I don't think i have ever seen any character (popular) get that high of a vote.  While he could be a legit character  in the poll i don't buy  the  number of votes .Everyone should vote to who they want but not by being hacked from an outside source. I am just a big a fan of the eu starting with the Heir to the empire  series , To Tales of the jedi and so fourth . I was very unhappy when they erased the whole line but there's some good stuff Disney is doing to. . But i can think of a bunch of Much better characters to be in the poll instead of Ben Skywalker, such as a revised Ulic Qel Droma or an Exar Kun. IMO This is the 40th anniversary of star wars why Not just get some of the key characters that haven been produced yet  from the original line out of the way on a vintage card to kick off and celebrate the return of a great line  for us 3.75 collectors .Then  some of those other characters could be produced at a later time .  This is what we have be waiting for  and these hackers are already setting us up to fail  and cause more complaining making us look like we will never be satisfied  even when we got what we wanted . Its a good bet Hasbro and anyone else running this poll have been notified of the outside interference  .I personally hope Ben Gets eliminated from the poll all together .  Just saying

I'm not missing any points.

Paul Harrison and others are FALSELY claiming that EU fans are cheating.

Campaigning to get Ben made IS NOT CHEATING.

It's that simple.

I'm also not pushing the issue. I'm clarifying it, but not pushing it.

The EU fans have Facebook pages that alert us to go and vote on the polls. which is fully okay with Hasbro.

Jaina got a ton of votes as well as Revan. why? Because the EU fans SUPPORT the EU community.

I think a lot of you Ben haters just haven't read the stories he's in.

Ben Skywalker is important to two ERAS of Star wars.  The Vong war/Legacy of the force and the Legacy series of comics. So when you guys claim Ben is a lame character or there are better choices, I completely disagree.

Slandering the EU community as "hackers" sounds like an emotional response to not getting the figure you want.

I've contacted Hasbro, Star wars.com, Lucasfilm, AND Disney and explained that we are being falsely accused of cheating/hacking.

And I know I'm telling the truth. And I trust that they will know too.

And your hoping that Ben gets removed is just dividing the community even further.

It was bad enough that Greedo shooting first and Jar Jar Binks divided us. Then Disney's stupid decision to "disregard"(code for steal from) the EU.

And now you people slandering the EU communities.

I have no beef with you or the Pro Disney people. I was just responding to your comment.

I hope that ISY understands and doesn't ban or punish me for this comment. :{
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: JDeck on April 20, 2017, 07:06:25 PM
Trolling the internet creating accounts only to vote for Ben Skywalker goes against the spirit of Fan's Choice.  How is it every EU fan votes for the same exact character. I know exactly what is going on, so do you.
  I've had extensive talks with people bragging about organizing and  throwing the votes. They claim they spoiled the election last year.  They'll keep doing it every year. They talked about how this year they had to move fast because it (Fan's Choice) came unexpected. Its complete BS. Many of them admit they don't even collect figures. They will ruin not only this Fan's choice but the rollout of TVC. by releasing an automatic pegwarmer.
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: tetsuoswrath on April 20, 2017, 07:19:37 PM
Trolling the internet creating accounts only to vote for Ben Skywalker goes against the spirit of Fan's Choice.  How is it every EU fan votes for the same exact character. I know exactly what is going on, so do you.
  I've had extensive talks with people bragging about organizing and  throwing the votes. They claim they spoiled the election last year.  They'll keep doing it every year. They talked about how this year they had to move fast because it (Fan's Choice) came unexpected. Its complete BS. Many of them admit they don't even collect figures. They will ruin not only this Fan's choice but the rollout of TVC. by releasing an automatic pegwarmer.

You're lying though. And that's messed up.

There's no one making fake accounts or trolling. That's just what YOU are calling it because you don't want Ben to win.

Like I said, there are facebook pages that ALERT us to go and vote on these polls. And those pages all get together to pick who they're going to all vote for.

It's called campaigning, not cheating/hacking/trolling.

Hasbro is fine with us doing this too.

And no, you're just claiming it's cheating because Ben is doing well and you don't want his figure.

You're only CLAIMING that you've talked to people who say they're cheating. That's messed up to fake info like that.

I really don't appreciate "fans" like you that are willing to lie just to get Ben removed.

And this hoax you and the anti-Ben crowd are pulling is really immature.

You're only dividing our fanbase further by doing that.

I suggest you read up on Ben Skywalker and see how great a character he is. And then maybe, we can have less division in our community.

Again, to the mods/admins, I am not trying to be rude/confrontational and I don't mean to violate any rules. Please let me know if I am.

I'm just trying to rectify the lies being told about the EU fans that were organized enough to get together and try to get a Ben Skywalker figure made. :{

Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: JDeck on April 20, 2017, 07:27:59 PM
You dont know anything about me. I don't care what you think about me. I didn't even read your response because I know its the same stuff I've been hearing all week from you people. If you really want to get EU back into mainline, make your own group petition to Hasbro for comic packs. The same way 3.75 collectors have been petitioning to get YVC back. Stop messing with our polls.
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: tetsuoswrath on April 20, 2017, 07:34:45 PM
You dont know anything about me. I don't care what you think about me. I didn't even read your response because I know its the same stuff I've been hearing all week from you people. If you really want to get EU back into mainline, make your own group petition to Hasbro for comic packs. The same way 3.75 collectors have been petitioning to get YVC back. Stop messing with our polls.

You're way too offended for someone that thinks they're telling the truth.

Stop lying about the EU fans.

No one is cheating/hacking the polls.

You're just upset that Ben is doing well and you don't want his figure.

That's it.

You're slandering a whole swath of fans because you're not getting your way.

I'm mature enough to read ALL of your comments, you should be mature enough to reciprocate the notion.

And if you're really a fan, you should be trying to bring the community closer together, not divide it further.

And I'm sure Hasbro will do this:

They'll make Ben AND someone like the Tonnika Sisters or one of the other choices to appease both sides.

I hope THAT happens, because I'm not a jerk who wants to see someone else not get their figure made.  :{
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: Commander_Kurgan on April 20, 2017, 10:53:22 PM
I don't read comics, I have no idea who Ben Skywalker is.
If we want the new TVC to be successful, we should concentrate on characters who have been in the movies or TV series.

The previous TVC gave us EU characters when the line was firmly established and that was (I never thought I'd say that about Hasbro) a smart course of action.
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: tetsuoswrath on April 20, 2017, 11:24:01 PM
I don't read comics, I have no idea who Ben Skywalker is.
If we want the new TVC to be successful, we should concentrate on characters who have been in the movies or TV series.

The previous TVC gave us EU characters when the line was firmly established and that was (I never thought I'd say that about Hasbro) a smart course of action.

All the EU figures are the hardest to find for a reason.

They sell fast.

This idea that they're "peg warmers" is ludicrous to anyone who has tried finding a Jacen/Jaina/KOTOR/Comic Two packs.

The exclusivity to wal-mart is gone to from what I heard. which would mean that Hasbro is going to be selling more anyways.

Ben is in the novels more than the comics I think. Mainly the Legacy of the Force series. He's born during the NJO series.

This idea that the EU characters will run Hasbro into the ground couldn't be farther from the truth.

But I hope both sides are pleased either way. :{
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: Tamer on April 21, 2017, 02:13:11 AM
Ok folks I sent in our nominations. And Hasbro is well aware of the "Ben Skywalker" Controversy so we will see what they say. I will let you know what I find out if they formally reply to it.
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: Tamer on April 21, 2017, 03:09:34 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/e9CP3rX.png)
Here are the results I submitted for your clarification:

1. Tonnika Sisters
(http://i.imgur.com/QsctoF0.jpg)

2. Sim Aloo
(http://i.imgur.com/HCLg00A.jpg)

3. Rogue One Rebel SpecForce Commando
(http://i.imgur.com/TQU9LeT.jpg)

4. Pong Krell
(http://i.imgur.com/AaJBoA8.jpg)

5. Satele Shan
(http://i.imgur.com/ya0NduJ.png)

6. Dash Rendar
(http://i.imgur.com/elVQLbS.png)

I officially put the Ben Skywalker problem to Hasbro so they can decide if they will allow him or not. They are aware of the situation. I think the results submitted reflect the regular members at large and are spread out across the various Star Wars Genres. Good job Shipyarders!
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: CloneCrazy on April 21, 2017, 03:15:50 AM
That's a great list! I'd buy any of those!
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: Commander_Kurgan on April 21, 2017, 03:55:41 AM
That's a vote!
I have no use for Sim Aloo, but I'd buy all the other figures, some even multiples of.
Like Hasbro has shown with Captain Fordo in the previous TVC, some accessories can make a great figure into an awesome figure.
All of ISY member votes have the potential of becoming AWESOME figures.
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: Soapmaker on April 21, 2017, 04:08:56 AM
I love the EU, but thank god Ben Skywalker has been removed, I t's a better list with out him!
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: tetsuoswrath on April 21, 2017, 04:46:08 AM
Ok folks I sent in our nominations. And Hasbro is well aware of the "Ben Skywalker" Controversy so we will see what they say. I will let you know what I find out if they formally reply to it.

Tamer, I left a PM for you on this. :{
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: JDeck on April 21, 2017, 04:54:41 AM
It definitely looks representative of what sort of characters we often submit. I would definitely buy 2 of each 1 loose 1 MOC. Im not a huge cw fan but you can imagine the cardback with pong krell.
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: Tamer on April 21, 2017, 05:08:49 AM
I am pretty happy with our list.
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: Mandalore25 on April 21, 2017, 08:20:34 AM
Ok, guys I know for a fact the Ben Skywlker movement at large, can't speak for everyone, isn't about cheating, it's a campaign with a lot of supporters, I saw this campaign form where a lot of us EU fans came together and decided amongst us to rally under one character rather than act separate (campaigning is legal, and everyone could do it too), and I am proud to support the EU fans coming together in this matter. However this "Black Sun" I've never heard, and like I said I'm a part of this campaign, I'd guess it's a radical splinter group, that could very well be cheating, but they're mot the majority.
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: Kualan on April 21, 2017, 10:08:20 AM
Some interesting choices! I'm partial to Pong Krell myself.
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: mr.Jedi1977 on April 21, 2017, 02:16:17 PM
It definitely looks representative of what sort of characters we often submit. I would definitely buy 2 of each 1 loose 1 MOC. Im not a huge cw fan but you can imagine the cardback with pong krell.

I wish i was able to comment earlier on the craziness but im not going to bother . I  agree with you completely and i to am very satisfied with the results  ! The Ben Skywalker  character looks like it may be dismissed due to the same people voting twice from the same Email and this Black sun involvement .  I would def get a few of the same characters myself .
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: Tamer on April 21, 2017, 02:43:49 PM
It makes me glad to have you folks here supportive of our submissions. I agree its our list, no one elses.
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: JDeck on April 21, 2017, 03:04:30 PM
It definitely looks representative of what sort of characters we often submit. I would definitely buy 2 of each 1 loose 1 MOC. Im not a huge cw fan but you can imagine the cardback with pong krell.

I wish i was able to comment earlier on the craziness but im not going to bother . I  agree with you completely and i to am very satisfied with the results  ! The Ben Skywalker  character looks like it may be dismissed due to the same people voting twice from the same Email and this Black sun involvement .  I would def get a few of the same characters myself .
  Thanks Mr.Jedi. you absolutely had my back I appreciate it. A lot of people have worked hard and waited long for TVC to come back. We couldn't let some Poll Trolls ruin it for everyone.
Tamer thanks for ousting the fraud. Now we have the best damn list on the webs.
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: mr.Jedi1977 on April 21, 2017, 03:18:07 PM
It makes me glad to have you folks here supportive of our submissions. I agree its our list, no one elses.

We fought long complained hard to get this line back , i will be dammed if i let some group of hackers ruin this kickoff.  There's so much more potential for this line and these characters that are in the choices to be made .
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: mr.Jedi1977 on April 21, 2017, 03:21:44 PM
It definitely looks representative of what sort of characters we often submit. I would definitely buy 2 of each 1 loose 1 MOC. Im not a huge cw fan but you can imagine the cardback with pong krell.

I wish i was able to comment earlier on the craziness but im not going to bother . I  agree with you completely and i to am very satisfied with the results  ! The Ben Skywalker  character looks like it may be dismissed due to the same people voting twice from the same Email and this Black sun involvement .  I would def get a few of the same characters myself .
  Thanks Mr.Jedi. you absolutely had my back I appreciate it. A lot of people have worked hard and waited long for TVC to come back. We couldn't let some Poll Trolls ruin it for everyone.
Tamer thanks for ousting the fraud. Now we have the best damn list on the webs.

 Anytime my friend  !  There was no way i was just sitting this out and letting these Hackers ruin something we hardcore collectors hold so dear . This is our chance to have our voices heard and let them (Hasbro) know what we want !  I really hope this Ben Skywalker Debacle is done and put to rest !
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: tetsuoswrath on April 21, 2017, 05:13:02 PM
I think all the slander the members here are directing at the EU community is messed up.

No one cheated except for those slandering the Continue Legends group.

That FB page has 11,000 followers which EXPLAINS why so many are voting for Ben LEGITIMATELY.

You guys are just being immature about a figure you don't want and dividing the community instead of bringing it together.

And the way you steadily continue to troll the pick of Ben is really sad. You guys are pushing away the users that legitimately voted for Ben.

Shame on you for spreading a lie and slandering a whole group of fans. :{
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: tetsuoswrath on April 21, 2017, 05:20:44 PM
I'm sorry for calling out the Ben Skywalker haters like this, but what YOU are doing is the cheating/hacking.

You're spreading a lie that he EU fans hacked/cheated because we were organized and all picked Ben Skywalker.

And because of this lie, people like Tamer are changing the legitimate results in YOUR favor.

That's the real cheating.

I like this site for the customizing section, but I can't believe how unfair the EU community is being treated/represented here. :{
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: tetsuoswrath on April 21, 2017, 05:33:34 PM
Ok, guys I know for a fact the Ben Skywlker movement at large, can't speak for everyone, isn't about cheating, it's a campaign with a lot of supporters, I saw this campaign form where a lot of us EU fans came together and decided amongst us to rally under one character rather than act separate (campaigning is legal, and everyone could do it too), and I am proud to support the EU fans coming together in this matter. However this "Black Sun" I've never heard, and like I said I'm a part of this campaign, I'd guess it's a radical splinter group, that could very well be cheating, but they're mot the majority.

At least you're half right. The "Black Sun" thing is an intentional lie being spread to ruin the chances of Ben being made.

The EU haters are the ones cheating by spreading that lie.

I haven't seen ANYONE other than those opposed to Ben's figure saying ANYTHING about the "Black Sun".

Truth is, the EU haters are mad that Ben would legitimately win and can't stand it. So they're cheating by spreading a false rumor.

I hope that Hasbro makes Ben Skywalker AND the EU haters' pick. Cause I'm not a POS like them trying to ruin someone else getting their figures made. :{
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: mr.Jedi1977 on April 21, 2017, 06:51:58 PM
tetsuoswrath
i really don't stoop to peoples level like this but you couldnt leave well enough alone could you . So at the risk of being reprimanded by Tamer, i am going to crack this egg. The only hater i see on this post is you.  you keep pushing this issue like a spoiled kid stomping his feet until he gets his way . First of all do not say that tamer is catering to us  by removing your choice  from the poll he was not influenced but doing the right thing until confirmed by Hasbro like all the other sites. If you go to the other sites you will see its been done everywhere . Second how can you say over a difference of opinion that because we dont agree with ben being a good choice and or being a hack from an outside source that we hate the eu?  i was there from the begining in 1977 on line to see the movie probably before you were born and when we were introduced to the eu i was hooked since .i have read most of the books /novels, and like many of us  i was very skeptical about the disney take over and still a bit skeptical but they are trying . Its just not what you want to see. i understand and commend you on your loyalty like so many of us  .but  if and all of us who disagree with you about ben,and if i am a hater pf the eu like you think then i think you are a mole planted here by black sun to play devils advocate to divide us up and sit back and laugh. seriously you need to just not reply to this and stay away from this post  because you are the one getting real carried away with this and the one accusing.  Please do us all a favor put this to rest already . I am done with this now and not going to reply . Lets see if you are man enough to do the same . And if i offended anyone else i apologize . I feel very strongly like many of you about tvc 3.75 sa figures and i too have many figures i want to see made but will either have to wait or make them myself . Thats what tis site is for  not to bicker between fellow customizers .
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: tetsuoswrath on April 21, 2017, 07:22:41 PM
tetsuoswrath
i really don't stoop to peoples level like this but you couldnt leave well enough alone could you . So at the risk of being reprimanded by Tamer, i am going to crack this egg. The only hater i see on this post is you.  you keep pushing this issue like a spoiled kid stomping his feet until he gets his way . First of all do not say that tamer is catering to us  by removing your choice  from the poll he was not influenced but doing the right thing until confirmed by Hasbro like all the other sites. If you go to the other sites you will see its been done everywhere . Second how can you say over a difference of opinion that because we dont agree with ben being a good choice and or being a hack from an outside source that we hate the eu?  i was there from the begining in 1977 on line to see the movie probably before you were born and when we were introduced to the eu i was hooked since .i have read most of the books /novels, and like many of us  i was very skeptical about the disney take over and still a bit skeptical but they are trying . Its just not what you want to see. i understand and commend you on your loyalty like so many of us  .but  if and all of us who disagree with you about ben,and if i am a hater pf the eu like you think then i think you are a mole planted here by black sun to play devils advocate to divide us up and sit back and laugh. seriously you need to just not reply to this and stay away from this post  because you are the one getting real carried away with this and the one accusing.  Please do us all a favor put this to rest already . I am done with this now and not going to reply . Lets see if you are man enough to do the same . And if i offended anyone else i apologize . I feel very strongly like many of you about tvc 3.75 sa figures and i too have many figures i want to see made but will either have to wait or make them myself . Thats what tis site is for  not to bicker between fellow customizers .

See? A bunch of unwarranted hate that's stooping to lying about EU fans just because Ben Skywalker is being picked by thousands of collectors.

If you were being lied about and your group of friends was being called cheaters/hackers falsely, you'd be trying to expose that lie too.

And you'd be pretty angry hearing some immature user calling you a "spoiled kid stomping his feet until he gets his way".

The funny thing is, that's how all of the Ben haters REALLY are. You guys are the ones stomping to get your way by LYING.

I think Tamer is running a site as best he/she can. I've got no beef with the person responsible for ISY one bit.

All other sites? That's hyperbole at it's lowest dude. Rebelscum kept Ben and didn't perpetuate a lie that EU fans cheated. And I've only seen ONE other site(JTA) mention cheating. If I google "star wars 2017 vintage poll black sun" I get nothing about any cheating either.

So you guys are lying/making that up just to get YOUR way.

There is no hack/cheating. The Continue Legends FB page has 11,000 followers. And they're collectors just like you.

You're just mad that Ben legitimately was voted on so much more than any of YOUR choices.

And when you first met Star wars isn't an argument dude. That doesn't make you any more a fan just like me having read most of the EU novels doesn't. Can't believe you're trying to invoke that fake reasoning either.

You say "all of us" as if you speak for the whole site dude. 7 people here voted for Ben placing him second. He should still be on the list unless Tamer is saying those 7 accounts are fake/have cheated. which he hasn't said.

So I don't appreciate being involved in a poll that doesn't respect the choices that won. There was literally no point to me and the 6 other people that voted for Ben to even waste our time if people like you can lie and say we cheated.

There is no "Black Sun" group, you and the other Ben haters are making that up.

I haven't found ANY comments by ANYONE that voted for Ben saying ANYTHING about "Black Sun".

The only people I see mentioning BS are those that are mad about Ben being voted on so much.

OMG You're trying to accuse me of what YOU are doing?

And you're the one bickering and being immature.

You're the one trolling me because I'm right in exposing that you guys are LYING about the EU fans and the whole Ben Skywalker thing.

People like YOU are destroying what's left of the community.

Your whole comment is just a bunch of trolls against me and you think you're "man enough"?

Men don't troll people and make up lies. Men stand up for people being wrongly accused like I've been doing.

And collectors shouldn't try as hard as you are to ruin the chances of another collector getting their figure made. SMH.

Tamer, again, I'm only responding to a trolling comment and sticking up for the truth. I would hate if either of those gets me banned. :{
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: Commander_Kurgan on April 21, 2017, 10:21:27 PM
tetsuoswrath, are you calling ISY members POS further up?
This community is made up of some of the friendliest, most helpful people you can meet in the major league of collectors and customizers.
Untill this strange Ben Skywalker thing came up and you started campaigning for that figure on here, the tone of the discussions has always been civilized and without aggression.
I hope it is just my bad command of the English language making me feel uncomfortable with your recent postings.
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: tetsuoswrath on April 21, 2017, 11:11:43 PM
tetsuoswrath, are you calling ISY members POS further up?
This community is made up of some of the friendliest, most helpful people you can meet in the major league of collectors and customizers.
Untill this strange Ben Skywalker thing came up and you started campaigning for that figure on here, the tone of the discussions has always been civilized and without aggression.
I hope it is just my bad command of the English language making me feel uncomfortable with your recent postings.

I said them as in those on JTA.

Up until I mentioned this Ben Skywalker thing, I've been treated with total kindness/respect here.

And did you read the comment I was responding to? That might be why. Like it's out of context?

I'm just standing up for what's right and I'm getting rude responses.

Saying that someone is a POS for lying about EU fans cheating/hacking the poll is accurate and a fair assessment.

Cause think about it like this: The EU fans want at least one EU figure per poll.

ALL the other people will get their "canon" figures either way.

The EU fan is the only one that can lose by not getting their figure made. The one's only collecting movie/"canon" characters is going to get theirs anyways.

And the Tonnika Sisters are a SET that I want to complete my cantina collection, but that's TWO figures for one vote. (I admit they could do a repaint though.)

I still hold hope that Hasbro will make Ben AND the other top choice. Cause that's the best way. :{D

Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: JDeck on April 22, 2017, 02:25:13 AM
Your group is a fringe fanatic cult group. This whole thing is doing nothing but hurt your cause right now no one in the star wars community takes you people seriously. Im sure after all this, there will be safeguards in place to keep groups like yours from trying to hijack our polls. Your done your team lost get over it there are plemty of EU candidates on this site and others. No one seriously eants Ben Skywalker. Luke Skywalker didn't even want Ben Skywalker.
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: tetsuoswrath on April 22, 2017, 04:00:39 AM
Your group is a fringe fanatic cult group. This whole thing is doing nothing but hurt your cause right now no one in the star wars community takes you people seriously. Im sure after all this, there will be safeguards in place to keep groups like yours from trying to hijack our polls. Your done your team lost get over it there are plemty of EU candidates on this site and others. No one seriously eants Ben Skywalker. Luke Skywalker didn't even want Ben Skywalker.

The users here legitimately voted for Ben.

And users lied about the EU groups cheating just so Ben wouldn't get made.

Trolling me so hard speaks volumes.  :{
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: Mandalore25 on April 22, 2017, 04:14:36 AM
I voted for Ben fairly why should any of your votes be worth more than mine?
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: JDeck on April 22, 2017, 04:41:41 AM
Mando I remember you saying, you would never buy a new Star Wars figure again. This poll is for Star Wars Vintage collection fans. Your group os just trying to push an agenda.
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: Mandalore25 on April 22, 2017, 04:53:44 AM
Mando I remember you saying, you would never buy a new Star Wars figure again. This poll is for Star Wars Vintage collection fans. Your group os just trying to push an agenda.

Nice try using my words out of context, but do you really think I wouldn't buy Ben when I have every other EU figure there is? Even the most valuable modern Star Wars figure there is, Exar Kun. Do you seriously think I did not buy a 6in Revan? Your point is also irrelevant to what I said to begin with, I have every right regardless as a loyal member to this site to vote for whoever I wish, and that vote to count as much as anyone else's. By your remark you are strongly implying my vote shouldn't count.
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: JDeck on April 22, 2017, 04:57:02 AM
So you'll buy 1 figure out of, 115 or so?
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: Mandalore25 on April 22, 2017, 05:33:57 AM
So you'll buy 1 figure out of, 115 or so?

I'd buy it because it would actually be something I want for a change, before 6in Revan, and aside from a very few 6in figures, which even them was in no small part to them being half off, was Darth Plagues. Why? Because I have multiples of the movie characters with full articulation already, I care little for background characters (the ones I already have are more than enough), my primary collecting for Star Wars is 3.75 (which pretty much hasn't existed the past few years, and what did was 5 POA), and as many chances as I regret giving Disney, I just don't like it. I want new characters from the Star Wars I love. So let me phrase the question differently then, why do your collections deserve to grow more than mine? Those commenting have already more than supported that my vote doesn't count, and that my collection means less that yours. Why? So Ben wins, Ben didn't win, it's a vote some will be happy others won't. Right now, what bugs me is you guys rallying for my vote to be terminated, that my vote doesn't matter. I fallowed all the rules, heck I even decided to use only one of my emails to be fair, but apparently that means nothing. Like come on, he's one of 6, are you all really that eager to hop on a bandwagon of lies that you'd take it out on the honest voters? I'm not going lie it genuinely hurts when I regard this site so highly.
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: JDeck on April 22, 2017, 05:41:47 AM
I fully intend on buying at least 1 of every figure. 2 if the card is nice. Even more if they are army builder types. Im adjusting my spending habbits to support the vintage collection. I missed the fislrst wave because I couldn't afford to collect anything but debt. Now I can't wait for TVC to return.
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: Mandalore25 on April 22, 2017, 06:42:20 AM
I appreciate that, I look forward to full articulation, for if anything, customizing, and likely with TVC there will be at least a few I want, depending on price (did they release a price point?). Going from spending hundreds a year to zero is heart braking... But that's the thing for me, I'm the get what what I like collector, there has to be something I want for Hasbro to get my money. However I must ask a collector like yourself, why fuss about Ben, or no Ben if you'll buy the winner regardless? I mean not voting wise, vote for what you want to see made the most, but if he ends up on the Hasbro submission, or not? Like the votes are there, and he didn't even get first. A frequent topic on site is for more voters, we get more votes, but then we take votes away? And by taking them away means they don't matter, ergo what those who voted for him wanted mattered less than those who voted for anyone else. This pot was stirred by both parties reading through all this, and personally I think we should be able to at least agree that adding rules after the fact is wrong, so let's plan better next year, and that all votes matter, how would you feel if the Tonnika Sisters were taken off when you voted fairly? I'm not asking us to agree, or all be happy with the outcome, just find common ground in some basic, sensible principles.
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: Mandalore25 on April 22, 2017, 06:52:20 AM
This was simply my curiosity, it was brought up there were way more votes this year, if you go back, there were simply 20 votes in 2015, 36 votes in 2016 (16 more votes), and now 48 votes in 2017 (only 12 more votes), the upward trend would hold.
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: JDeck on April 22, 2017, 07:02:34 AM
What happened this year with the all the fraud is completely idiotic. If this happens next time count me out. Ill still support the line, but the voting is useless.
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: mr.Jedi1977 on April 22, 2017, 07:20:16 AM
Ok this has gotten way out of hand ! For the record  , and I'm going to use it in simple terms,   I don't speak for everybody  tetsuoswrath (dude)  just because we disagree  on something , how does that give you the right to say we are haters of the eu? I like so many of us in prior  polls and votes have had to sit back and deal many times with my vote note winning or some kind of excuse why we can't have the figure . I have never carried on and challenging anybody giving the same arguments over and over and putting down anybody on this site or any .  For you to be doing what you are doing is a waste of time and honestly you should be apologizing . This site  like commander_kurgan said is the most friendliest and helpful site to all that are on here . It'pwople like you that go over board . You accuse us for lying and being cheaters and saying the samething over and over but you yourself have not given us any proof to suppor anything you said . So until you do tetsuoswrath       ( dude) please put it to rest and keep the peace there's no room for your negativity here  . You want to be treated fairly change your tune and quick. . I have no problem with your decision to support the Ben skywalker movement  but calm down and don't get mad at something that does not go with what you believe  ! You have riled up a few people , please enough on this and put it to rest
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: mr.Jedi1977 on April 22, 2017, 07:27:38 AM
I appreciate that, I look forward to full articulation, for if anything, customizing, and likely with TVC there will be at least a few I want, depending on price (did they release a price point?). Going from spending hundreds a year to zero is heart braking... But that's the thing for me, I'm the get what what I like collector, there has to be something I want for Hasbro to get my money. However I must ask a collector like yourself, why fuss about Ben, or no Ben if you'll buy the winner regardless? I mean not voting wise, vote for what you want to see made the most, but if he ends up on the Hasbro submission, or not? Like the votes are there, and he didn't even get first. A frequent topic on site is for more voters, we get more votes, but then we take votes away? And by taking them away means they don't matter, ergo what those who voted for him wanted mattered less than those who voted for anyone else. This pot was stirred by both parties reading through all this, and personally I think we should be able to at least agree that adding rules after the fact is wrong, so let's plan better next year, and that all votes matter, how would you feel if the Tonnika Sisters were taken off when you voted fairly? I'm not asking us to agree, or all be happy with the outcome, just find common ground in some basic, sensible principles.

We have lost the votes many times with the Tonikka sisters because of issues of likeness rights but yet they still seem to pop up in every poll. The people who voted for her complained but not to the extent that I have seen with this Ben skywalker debacle . I fully support either characters being made but tvc comes first with the 3 movies that started it all .  Once we have those key figures that aren't made or we share both eu and OT characters  on tvc cards and sa figures everyone can be happy .
Title: Re: 2017 Fan Figure Poll
Post by: Tamer on April 22, 2017, 09:04:24 AM
Wow, I spent all day and night at the hospital with my mom and come back to find this.

Folks, please do not use this thread for any negativity in regards to calling out members for their votes, lack of support for EU, implying wrongdoing, etc. Folks are entitled to their opinions but not at the expense of everyone else.

I agree this has gotten way out of hand from folks I would have thought had a more level head. Anything negative from here on out will be deleted, warnings issued, and further consequences allotted if the post merits it. Please consider this your warning.

And I do thank those folks who tried to de-escalate this while I was away (as I am still shaking my head).