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Title: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: Tamer on October 30, 2012, 04:47:35 PM
I am still trying to take this in, but wanted to put this up here for folks to vote and put their thoughts down on this acquistion.

Right now I am sure wondering what it means to be a SW Site Owner in addition to a Collector.

Disney bought out Lucasfilm for around $4 billion today. And they have announced an Episode 7 for sometime in 2015!
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f115/CTtamer/Tamer%20Cont%202/fotoflexer_photo-11.jpg)
Read the full details:

http://money.cnn.com/2012/10/30/technology/disney-buys-lucasfilm/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

And its supposedly the start of a new trilogy with new movies every two to three years after that!
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: wraithnine on October 30, 2012, 04:57:39 PM
i know  i thought my mate was pulling my leg when he told   ,part of me still cant believe it ...
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: darthdaddy on October 30, 2012, 05:05:45 PM
AS long as Disney doesn't send cease and desist letters to all us Star Wars customizers like they did to Sillof with his Marvel figures, I'll be looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: wraithnine on October 30, 2012, 05:28:23 PM
i think that considering there were customizing panels at CVI that would be really really dumb as its a massive community
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: Clonehead on October 30, 2012, 05:36:14 PM
I caught this as well. I am juiced at the aspect of new star wars movies.
http://abcnews.go.com/m/blogEntry?id=17601151 (http://abcnews.go.com/m/blogEntry?id=17601151)
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: kreeper2 on October 30, 2012, 05:40:42 PM
it could be good for the series Disney loves to make movies that they know will make money and that people will go see. On the merchandizing end hopefully they can be a bigger influence on hasbro to put out better and different selections. As long as they dont make it to kiddieish.
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: DarthSinister on October 30, 2012, 06:14:49 PM
I think this is the best news I've heard in a long time. Disney will be great stewards of the Star Wars franchise with LFL still at the creative helm. I love Disney, they've gotten a lot better in the past decade. PIXAR rules! MARVEL is awesome.

(I just hope they don't let Tim Burton take a crack, and PLEASE no Johnny Depp as Han Solo)

Other wise THIS is what I know...

I WILL LIVE to see another Star Wars film. HOORAH!

By the way I'm off to Disney World in a couple of weeks with the family. Thanksgiving at Disney World.
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: Mr.Mandalore on October 30, 2012, 06:35:10 PM
as long as disney doesnt ruin the franchise by making it to repetitive i think ill be alright.

 who knows maybe there will be one about republic commandos  ()rr
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: mr.Jedi1977 on October 30, 2012, 07:05:07 PM
i am happy that a new star wars trilogy is in the works but at the same time very cautious . I wonder if any of you all share these same points as me , please let me know. This is my opinion , and you can disagree with me , i have no problem with that, so....  I am like most of you all here am  a purist when it comes to Star Wars. I love the original three movies and never get tired of them . I don't hate episodes 1-3 i actually enjoy them. I love collecting/ customizing figures otherwise i would not be here. But i am upset a bit at how  commercial Star wars has become over the years. I feel alot of the magic and mystery has been taken away . IT seems now that everyone wants on board which is cool because it shows just how powerful and important Star wars is in our world/ lives. I feel that  Disney has potential, i just see it also going in a different direction then George Lucas's vision . I saw that he will be a consultant on the new films  but how long before he get board or Disney kind of pushes him aside. I am trying to be brief with this as i can go on and on but  I think this would be a great discussion to continue with everybody. you all made good points  . What do you all think ? And btw  DarthSinister  i could'nt agree with you more no too Tim Burton and Johny depp as well as Helena Bonham carter
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: DarthSinister on October 30, 2012, 07:32:32 PM
Hey mr.Jedi77'... you know me, I'm like you. OT all the way. We've even discussed this on my thread so you know I'm not a great fan of the PT.   

The way I see it though, is we're going to get a lot more films, cartoons and TV shows. Some of these will not be quite my taste, but some will hit em' outta the park. That being said I'm willing to take the good with the bad when it comes to Star Wars.

Disney also has some pretty good director attached to them. With a product like Star Wars they will most likely put their best on them to start. Maybe John Favrueu, Gore Verbinski perhaps.

Two words: more figures!
I can't wait to see how this will change the toys. Hey since Disney owns LFL and MARVEL now do you think that means we'll see MARVEL comics era Star Wars figures now?

Also will we see the release of the "Holiday Special"?

Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: Mando Assasin on October 30, 2012, 08:19:23 PM
Herd the news a hour ago. Not sure how I feel though.
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: ScreamingSamuraiStudio on October 30, 2012, 08:34:57 PM
Just let it sink in a little, Mando.
  But judging by the success of the Marvel franchise since being acquired by Disney, one has to be a little optimistic for the future of Star Wars. Disney has been able to churn out a couple of good movies without stomping all over the source material provided by Marvel.
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: ShamanLogRay on October 31, 2012, 12:25:45 AM
Im sure it was a good retirement plan for George! Lol!
Disney has certainly done a good job on the Pixar & Marvel films & are very keen to make a profit, so its likely they will listen to all the feedback to ensure it works out for them, so I doubt jar jar will be getting more than a walk on part in future films! Lol!
But whether you like the idea or loath it, you can guarentee there will at least be some new films & all the new merchandise that goes with them! So im quietly optimistic about it all! :)
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: M4K3R1 on October 31, 2012, 03:24:36 AM
It can only be good news. Nothing negative can come from this. Just take a look at what Disneys movies have been like latelly,(Marvel Movies), now picture new Star Wars movies done the same way. AWESOME!!!!!!!
Episode's 7 in 2015, episode 8 and 9 to follow in a Trilogy format. A new movie every 2nd year after that. We can all safelly say that  New Star Wars movies will be coming for the next 10 years.
Now that is good news.
And off course all the new toys that will follow the new movies. Start saving those pennies, it's going to be very expensive, but worthwhile.
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: Tamer on October 31, 2012, 03:27:46 AM
AS long as Disney doesn't send cease and desist letters to all us Star Wars customizers like they did to Sillof with his Marvel figures, I'll be looking forward to it.

Probably one of my biggest worries too. From what I understand the costuming groups are ok, but Mark Franklin did suggest the number of SW licensees will be reduced. What that means to us remains to be seen. I would also think all "unofficial" SW Fan Sitesl ike ours are now in question too.
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: Phatty on October 31, 2012, 05:46:51 AM
Guys, another thing to keep in mind, is that both Disney and Lucasfilm are publicly traded entities.  There has to be discussion between both parties, a tentative agreement, and then a waiting period where they have to present these things to the stockholders and hold a vote.  None of these things have happened.  It took several months to buy Marvel, from when they started talking about it until it was finalized.  It took almost a whole year to buy Pixar.  These things cannot legally happen overnight.   If it remains as it is by the weekend, I'll eat my words, but I'm betting the rest of this year's salary that this is a Halloween TRICK!
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: mr.Jedi1977 on October 31, 2012, 06:45:52 AM
Hey Phatty you made a great point. But knowing Disney and How their empire is , they are gonna push real hard for it and i am sure it is already in the bag . Ilm /Lucas film  imo is alot bigger then marvel though, Forgive me all you marvel fans lol . and the majority of movies today that have special effects usually go through ilm and lucasfilm . Disney Knows that they scored a gold mine.  What worries me is there is gonna be so much hype, alot of great products etc . But Us hardcore fans are gonna be let down. An  Example... John Carter now i know that you cant compare the two, but i believe Disney  at one point was comparing that to Avatar  and it was a let down. . Tamer made a great point also when he said " Mark Franklin did suggest the number of SW licensees will be reduced. Disney has a tight hold on their stuff They control everything how little or how much gets made . And that goes back to my point from earlier  How much before it is overkill, how much before that magic  is gone . I dont want you all to think im bashing Disney and it sound like i am but i am just being cautious . thats all
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: jkno on October 31, 2012, 07:05:32 AM
As I already said here in another topic I'm an OT fan, I grew up with it, and PT was a disappointment for me in most cases. Not sure what to think about the Disney future of Star Wars. Hope it will be ok, but even if it goes belly up, I still have my OT.
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: Luke Sprywalker on October 31, 2012, 09:03:01 AM
I think this will be a good thing and I say bring on a TOR movie that looks like the cinematic trailers we all flipped out over.
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: benjani_1976 on October 31, 2012, 02:02:31 PM
I think this will be a good thing and I say bring on a TOR movie that looks like the cinematic trailers we all flipped out over.

With the popularity of the mmorpg games and the old republic lego kits hitting the shelves I say it's likely to see a KOTOR film or 2 on the horizon.........I'd really like to see a republic commando series to cover what was published, and the book that was cancelled.

And plenty of mando action,then there's the rise of Boba Fett......I think we'll be seeing more of young Daniel Logan in the near future,a young boba fett (a hugely popular SW character) from the days surrounding the end of the republic growing up under imperial rule seems a disney film certainty.

but i'm still cautiously optimistic,live action...........not my cup of tea but only time will tell
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: hangarbay94 on October 31, 2012, 03:26:18 PM
A part of me wishes that the OT should have been left alone and remain movie legends, but another part of me is very excited at the prospect of someone doing justice to the Star Wars legacy. At the end of the day, this is the news that we have all been waiting for, it will bring new fans to the table and feed our insatiable appetite. 

Personally I'll miss the 20th Century Fox fanfare at the start of the movies, they always remind me of how excited I was seeing the original films, but that aside I can't wait for Ep7...I've got a good feeling about this one!
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: Rodger on October 31, 2012, 05:45:50 PM
I feel my enthusiasm will grow as my wallet shrinks ;D
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: Tamer on November 01, 2012, 03:11:17 AM
I will feel better when I see or hear a press release that they are pretty much gonna leave the fan groups alone. That quote by Mary Franklin didn't reassure me much, but it is way too early to tell. I don't see why they would kick a proverbial gift horse in the mouth, but I also know that Disney has teams of lawyers whose sole job is to go after people they feel are infringing on their property: which will soon mean Star Wars.
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: ShamanLogRay on November 01, 2012, 03:25:06 AM

If ISY was called the Star Wars fan club, I agree Disney lawyers may say hello, but its not, ultimately its a non profit fan club, set up after the official one was closed by loyal fans, so I dont think they will give ISY any real trouble as we are their customers, it wouldnt be good business practice! :)
I keep hearing how bad John Carter was, but have you seen the original film, the princess of mars? Its a hell of an improvement on that! Lol!
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: Tamer on November 01, 2012, 04:54:51 AM
Personally I liked John Carter, but I like anything sci-fi.

We will just have to see on the fan sites.
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: benjani_1976 on November 01, 2012, 08:22:19 AM
if Disney make a film around 100yrs ABY Hamill could easily reprise his role as an elderly Skywalker jedi master,watched airborne last night...........jeez he looks older than yoda :o

the green guy was right,when 900 yrs old you reach,look as good you will not....hmm
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: zedhatch on November 01, 2012, 11:42:02 AM
I will feel better when I see or hear a press release that they are pretty much gonna leave the fan groups alone. That quote by Mary Franklin didn't reassure me much, but it is way too early to tell. I don't see why they would kick a proverbial gift horse in the mouth, but I also know that Disney has teams of lawyers whose sole job is to go after people they feel are infringing on their property: which will soon mean Star Wars.

Really they have only gone after "House made properties", Micky, Donald, Goofy, ect.  They've done nothing like this with Pixar, Marvel or other aquired properties.  In fact marvel fan sites have exploded under the Disney ownership and it looks like it's not going to slow down.  However, I doubt SW could ever reach that explosion as they seem to have already been established at this point. 

Personally I liked John Carter, but I like anything sci-fi.

To each thier own, honestly I thought the movie had tons of potential but failed to deliever, the mains were just cardboard cutouts with no personality and tossing in the grey dudes through the focus of the movie off from what the book was, there was tons of things that could have been done better IMO. 
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: Tamer on November 01, 2012, 12:21:00 PM
Zed,

I know of customizers who were sent cease and desist letters for customizing marvel characters as well as various artwork after Disney took over Marvel. I agree I don't think they will go after various individuals, but they just might a site that promotes this type of thing. ;)

Its still too early to tell though. And as far as John Carter I sometimes think we are too critical and some of us will never be happy with whatever they decide to do with Episodes 7,8, and 9.
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: hangarbay94 on November 01, 2012, 12:58:36 PM
I wouldn't worry about that Tamer, Hangarbay would be able to re-imagine the site so that it won't infringe any rules...
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: Tamer on November 01, 2012, 02:58:01 PM
I wouldn't worry about that Tamer, Hangarbay would be able to re-imagine the site so that it won't infringe any rules...

LOL. I like the way you think Jules.
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: mr.Jedi1977 on November 01, 2012, 04:14:24 PM
Im not sure but i don't think they can stop people from making customs for fun and  as long as they don't sell them for money.  I think it will be really hard for people who commission their work though . That may be a problem
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: M4K3R1 on November 02, 2012, 01:45:09 AM
I hope, and really dont think that Disney would go as far as restricting websites from continueing as they have. Surelly Lucas would have mentioned to Disney that he would like things to continue as they have for the www. I think that Disney has considered this and would not want the bad press and public backlash from taking a heavy hand aproach. In my opinion if Disney is prepared to go that path, then it would seriouslly negativelly affect the new aquisition they have made in buying SW.
After all, sites such as this one, promote their product, add to their sales, and carry many repeat customers who buy the toys and other merchandise.
Free publicity, versus, bad press.
Disney, you need to make the right choice here.
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: Phatty on November 02, 2012, 07:10:55 AM
Honestly, I've heard about these "cease and desist" letters concerning customs, and I'm not 100% buying those either.  Honestly, there's nothing they can do about it legally.  Unless a person is mass producing something, which to my knowledge no one has a factory in their garage, they can't stop art, it's a matter of Constitutional rights at that point.  Besides, the money wasted in court for something like that is astronomically redundant. 

Well, It's been a few days, and no cat let out of the bag about it being a hoax, so it appears as though I have to eat my words.  I'm ok with it.  The timing, low-ball selling price, and announcement of a 2015 movie are still completely insane, to me, but I'm no Hollywood exec, either.  So with that in mind, I have no idea what to think.  I really don't think we'll see a change in much of anything, other than an onslaught of new avenues and merchandising.  I don't see them trying to shut down fan sites, or telling people they can't customize anymore, etc.  Remember, the internet is NOT formally governed by any sanctioned policiing agency, there is no law on the internet.  They'd again waste SO much money trying to fight them all, and while they obviously have that kind of money, it'd really put a hurting on their popularity of their new franchise.
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: zedhatch on November 02, 2012, 08:15:17 AM
Honestly, I've heard about these "cease and desist" letters concerning customs, and I'm not 100% buying those either.  Honestly, there's nothing they can do about it legally.  Unless a person is mass producing something, which to my knowledge no one has a factory in their garage, they can't stop art, it's a matter of Constitutional rights at that point.  Besides, the money wasted in court for something like that is astronomically redundant. 

Not doubting your word but can you actually name someone who got one of thoses.  I know there was this urban legend about Hasbro shutting down all the GI Joe and Transformer fan sites that turned out to be nothing at all.  When someone finally cornered Hasbro about it they knew nothing about it at all.  Turned out it was just a disgruntaled fanboy who was an admin of a fan site, no clue where other "cease and desist" E-mails came in at though, that mystery was never solved. 

Point being is that there is alreay a set of presidents for Disney not touching a thing, Marvel, Pixar, Muppets, ect.  Those fandoms have been going and in fact growing since Disney's aquisition, I think we are panicing here people.  Disney has never tried to stop MU or Marvel Legends customs nor have I ever heard of anyone getting a cease and desist for selling them.   I will believe it when I see it (and fight it tooth and nail LOL). 
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: Tamer on November 02, 2012, 08:40:25 AM
We talked a little bit about this when Chad and I interviewed Sillof for Custom Action Figure News if anyone wants to re-listen.

And as far as I know Hasbro has never done this, just Disney. I do agree though that all of this is conjecture at this point and doing something like that would be paramount to the biggest blunder in business there is.
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: jkno on November 02, 2012, 10:01:50 AM
I will feel better when I see or hear a press release that they are pretty much gonna leave the fan groups alone. That quote by Mary Franklin didn't reassure me much, but it is way too early to tell. I don't see why they would kick a proverbial gift horse in the mouth, but I also know that Disney has teams of lawyers whose sole job is to go after people they feel are infringing on their property: which will soon mean Star Wars.

People in the 501st are also worried of what will be happening to them. Also the unlicensed armor and helmet creators...
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: jkno on November 05, 2012, 03:39:48 AM
Some interesting read about the new Disney Star Wars movies :

http://geektyrant.com/news/2012/11/2/luke-skywalker-to-be-primary-focus-of-new-star-wars-trilogy.html
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: M4K3R1 on November 06, 2012, 01:14:48 AM
Serg, thanks for the interesting read.  WOW 12 chapters of Star Wars in the works. Now that is something indeed.
I was surprised at the Director's they are thinking of using, Joe Johnston should have been on  the list, but there is definatelly many great names in there.
I also read on another forum that Disney is now in talks, and wanting to aquire Hasbro. I wonder if that will affect the production of Toys/ action figures that would acompany the new movies. I wonder if Disney would produce the same quantities of toys as Hasbro do, or if it would limit the amounts produced.
I am thinking that the new movies will be awesome, as it seems that Disney is going all in with their SW aquisition.
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: Tamer on November 06, 2012, 07:32:14 AM
http://blog.zap2it.com/pop2it/2012/11/george-lucas-told-mark-hamill-and-carrie-fisher-about-star-wars-7-last-year.html

Looks like Mark and Carrie knew about a year ago.
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: Mando Assasin on November 06, 2012, 08:08:21 AM
That is very interesting! Wish they told their fans though!
Title: Re: Disney buys Lucasfilm
Post by: benjani_1976 on November 08, 2012, 06:19:57 AM
Those sources look good to me,6 films and live action series for starters. Not sure how the original cast will work though,all too old now for any film from 4-20aby,legacy era yes but early days of a new republic/NJO it'll take a damn good make up artist and personal trainer.

Still hoping for news of an old republic film or a trilogy.