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Kenner / Hasbro Collecting => Black, Mission, and Saga Legends Series => Topic started by: Mr. Black on March 21, 2014, 03:50:00 AM

Title: Black 3 and 3/4" Wave 4
Post by: Mr. Black on March 21, 2014, 03:50:00 AM
- Snowtrooper Commander
- Yoda w/backpack
- Toryn Farr
- Luke Skywalker (Dagobah Training)
- Dak Ralter
- Bastila Shan

Dorksidetoys has them up for pre-order:

http://www.dorksidetoys.com/2014-Star-Wars-Black-Series-3-75-Wave-4-Set-of-6-p/hassw802568.htm

(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f115/CTtamer/CTtamer001/HASSW802568-2T_zps1de08f47.jpg) (http://www.dorksidetoys.com/2014-Star-Wars-Black-Series-3-75-Wave-4-Set-of-6-p/hassw802568.htm?utm_source=Imperial-Shipyards)

I was planning on ordering the entire wave, but having seen high res pics of that Luke and Yoda, I'll just limit my order to the Snowtrooper Commander. Made it a squad though  ;D

The Commander looks good enough to me, I might end up retooling one for more POA.

Toryn Farr looks great too, but this figure is not for me.

Yoda looks plain horrible. Again, Hasbro fails to produce a decent looking OT Yoda

I get the idea behing the extra POA on Luke, but judging from the pics, the execution could've been handled better. I take it, those double jointed elbows are for holding the straps of the backpack correctly.

Dack Ralter seems to be a repack of the VC07 figure? Again, not for me.

Bastila Shan is a very popular figure and hard to find. Good call from Hasbro to repack her. I'm sure a lot of collectors will appreciate that.


So, what are your thoughts on this wave?
Title: Re: Black 3 and 3/4" Wave 4
Post by: Hand So Low on March 21, 2014, 04:19:20 AM
I'm excited for Bastila Shan! Hopefully they pack enough of her and Toryn Farr. I'll grab up a few Luke's too.
Title: Re: Black 3 and 3/4" Wave 4
Post by: Tamer on March 22, 2014, 07:39:22 AM
Remco thanks for posting this. I already ordered the case from Dorkside myself. I am done with retail. Like Chad and I discussed on CAFN it just doesn't make sense to go into any retail stores now. There just isn't anything there. I mean new finds in brick and mortar are like shockers now and a person is really gonna have to go to etailers if they want to continue to collect. I like Dorkside because they don't try to gouge you and they are just good people.
Title: Re: Black 3 and 3/4" Wave 4
Post by: dax415 on March 30, 2014, 10:27:46 PM
Whats so special about the Snowtrooper Commander?  It looks like a regular snowtrooper to me.  Perhaps I'm missing something?  Are there any extra details I'm failing to see on it?
Title: Re: Black 3 and 3/4" Wave 4
Post by: Mr. Black on March 31, 2014, 04:06:17 AM
Whats so special about the Snowtrooper Commander?  It looks like a regular snowtrooper to me.  Perhaps I'm missing something?  Are there any extra details I'm failing to see on it?

Most notably, the face mask is different. The commander has a mask that appears to be non-flexible, whereas the trooper clearly has a cloth mask. The commander was the one standing next to Veers in the AT-AT cockpit in TESB. Here you can see more differences between the two:

http://www.studiocreations.com/howto/snowtrooper/snowt_refpicts.html

Title: Re: Black 3 and 3/4" Wave 4
Post by: Goldleaderone on March 31, 2014, 07:14:04 AM
A Dak repack? I got him the first time around, I guess he's been hard to find. Still hoping for Snowspeeder Wedge.
Title: Re: Black 3 and 3/4" Wave 4
Post by: The Spectre on March 31, 2014, 12:59:24 PM
I just want a Bastilla as I missed her the first time around.
Title: Re: Black 3 and 3/4" Wave 4
Post by: dax415 on April 02, 2014, 11:12:11 AM
Whats so special about the Snowtrooper Commander?  It looks like a regular snowtrooper to me.  Perhaps I'm missing something?  Are there any extra details I'm failing to see on it?

Most notably, the face mask is different. The commander has a mask that appears to be non-flexible, whereas the trooper clearly has a cloth mask. The commander was the one standing next to Veers in the AT-AT cockpit in TESB. Here you can see more differences between the two:

http://www.studiocreations.com/howto/snowtrooper/snowt_refpicts.html



Oh this is cool, I never really noticed it in the movies.  Subtle but very different variations.  Thanks for pointing that out.  Looks like I'm gonna have to pick a couple these up.
Title: Re: Black 3 and 3/4" Wave 4
Post by: dax415 on April 06, 2014, 05:38:00 PM
Damn you BigBadToystore!!!!  Can never get a single carded preorder figure that I want!  I emailed them about a preorder too, guess its the wild wild west with them too.  Man I'm hoping amazon has the single figures out along with the entire wave 4.
Title: Re: Black 3 and 3/4" Wave 4
Post by: Tamer on April 07, 2014, 02:45:58 AM
Dorkside Toys has the case and the singles.
Title: Re: Black 3 and 3/4" Wave 4
Post by: dax415 on April 07, 2014, 09:33:05 PM
Thanks Tamer...ordered from Dorkside.  Just got to figure out how to get 2 more of Bastila, lol
Title: Re: Black 3 and 3/4" Wave 4
Post by: Tamer on April 26, 2014, 06:16:22 PM
Thanks Tamer...ordered from Dorkside.  Just got to figure out how to get 2 more of Bastila, lol

It was just listed for preorder on amazon

Bastila Shan at Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JEQL41U/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00JEQL41U&linkCode=as2&tag=imperiashipya-20)
Title: Re: Black 3 and 3/4" Wave 4
Post by: dax415 on April 28, 2014, 12:44:41 PM
Yee Haww!!!!  Thanks for the post ---put my order in....snagged a couple of Snowtrooper Commanders while I was at it.  DH
Title: Re: Black 3 and 3/4" Wave 4
Post by: Rodger on July 27, 2014, 06:49:57 AM
Toryn Farr my only interest is. 8)  Lotsa Hoth computers in storage and a Rebel Transport have my imagination feeling creative.  ;)
Title: Re: Black 3 and 3/4" Wave 4
Post by: Tamer on July 27, 2014, 06:53:07 AM
Toryn Farr my only interest is. 8)  Lotsa Hoth computers in storage and a Rebel Transport have my imagination feeling creative.  ;)

That Snowtrooper Commander is rocking too!
Title: Re: Black 3 and 3/4" Wave 4
Post by: Tamer on July 27, 2014, 06:53:39 AM
Yoda looks really small in the package. Glad they are changing it up.
Title: Re: Black 3 and 3/4" Wave 4
Post by: Mr. Black on August 10, 2014, 03:50:20 AM
I received my four commanders from Dorksidetoys yesterday. The minute I saw the carded figures when I opened the box, my eyes immediately went to his E11 blaster. That's an impressive blaster. Rigid plastic (finally!!!), and an awesome two-part folding stock. Here are my thoughts on this figure:

Sculpt: the figure itself is just a great representation of the Commander we briefly saw on screen behind Veers. This is definitely one of the best trooper sculpts Hasbro has done. I looked up reference pictures of the Snowtrooper Commander's costume and I can't find anything wong with it. All the little details are in place, as far as I can tell, from the two dimples on the nose of the mask, the upside down shoulder pads, the front and back of his chest armour, the TK lower arms, the holster for his sidearm right down to the thin detailed lining on his trousers. One minor gripe: the two small silver discs on the sides of his helmet are missing. The skirt is a plastic one, as opposed to his subordinates' soft-goods ones. Since Hasbro has a terrible score in the soft-goods department, handing the Commander a plastic one is a wise choice.

Paint: well, he's white for the most part, but there are slight difference noticeable in the shades of white applied. The 'hard' armour pieces are pretty much pristine white, while the trousers seem to be a tad off white. The skirt is off white another step further, including the big belt buckle. This last detail is just slightly disappointing, but understandable since the belt and skirt are one piece. On all of my four commanders, the lenses haven't been painted black completely. Except for that, the rest of the painted details are just perfect, right down to his rank badge and the grey cuffs of his gloves.

Articulation: the Commander comes with 14 POA: ball jointed head, shoulders and elbows, swivel wrists, ball jointed waist, swivel hips, ball jointed knees and ankles. This makes him posable very well, for a Commander. It's not like he'll be running, jumping and leaping for cover on the battlefield, but he sure can take some commanding poses. All joints move smoothly and tightly. The right glove however, tends to come loose quite quickly. If that happens to your Commanders as well, I suggest applying a tiny bit of superglue, replacing the glove and slowly turn it back and forth until the glue has settled. One would expect the helmet mold to hinder the articulation of it, but it can actually turn quite far. The upside down movement is minimal though, as can be expected. I am particularly impressed with the range of motion of the waist. Funny thing is, the grenade on his lower back, hinders the upper body from being turned all the way round, which is only natural. That is, unless your force it.

Accessories: the Commander comes with the aforementioned E11, which, again, is just an awesome piece. I have a couple of dozen E11s from Marauder Gun Runners, which is a mold that is several years old, and it's good to see Hasbro finally upping their game, ditching the bendy plastic and adding plenty of detail in such an iconic weapon. The Commander also comes with a sidearm (a DL44), which fits snuggly in its holster. You may have to work it a bit, but it fits perfectly.

Size: not a subject to normally include in a review, but hear me out. I've been collecting the 'best' modern versions of all the basic Kenner figures. A little while ago I received the VC Lando Calrissian in Skiff Guard disguise, placed it next to the Saga and Kenner version and was really taken aback by how tiny he was. I know Hasbro's scales and rulers have been compromised for a while now (Luke figures, Leia figures) but I never really gave it that much attention. Of course, after seeing that tiny Lando, I immediately measured up my Commander. And yes, he is too short for a Stormtrooper! He comes in at 1.72 meters! And that includes his helmet. That's at least 11 centimeters too short. Very strange and let's hope Hasbro doesn't continue down this path of downsizing.

That said, Hasbro has practically hit a home run with their Snowtrooper Commander. It's an awesome figure to have and a great addition to your Snowtrooper platoons.

I'll see if I can find the time to take pictures to accompany this review :)
Title: Re: Black 3 and 3/4" Wave 4
Post by: Tamer on August 10, 2014, 05:20:03 AM
Remco you ought to post this review in the Imperial Review Hasbro Area with a few pics. Just awesome points about this one.
Title: Re: Black 3 and 3/4" Wave 4
Post by: Mr. Black on August 12, 2014, 10:42:02 AM
Remco you ought to post this review in the Imperial Review Hasbro Area with a few pics. Just awesome points about this one.

Took some pics, slightly edited my review and put it up there, Shawn.

Title: Re: Black 3 and 3/4" Wave 4
Post by: Tamer on August 12, 2014, 11:20:56 AM
Sweet, let me go find that and make you famous.

By the way folks Wave 5 is already online in stock at Entertainment Earth (link on the front page and in our online store section).