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Title: First Responders and Military
Post by: RC-1136 on March 11, 2020, 02:38:13 PM
Hello there, all.

I thought I would put this thread here for all the folks who do these jobs and happen to be a member of the forums as well. I am a Law Enforcement Officer in the state of Florida. I work for a small police department in Central Florida. I usually work about 85 hours a week, dealing with various calls for service. I'm currently in training, working my way through the Field Training Program. I have some prior experience, which helps with a lot of that. So far, I'm nearly at the end of my first training phase. I take a lot of pride in my work and serving the community. I self-sponsored myself through the police academy and about $5,000 later, I passed the state exam and became certifiable as a police officer. Feel free to ask any questions you like and discussion is perfectly welcome! Cheers.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: Tamer on March 12, 2020, 02:11:34 AM
Congratulations. I didn't know you had to pay to go through the police academy. So awesome to see motivated young people. Keep safe out there and thank you for supporting your community and putting yourself in harms way to do so!
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: RC-1136 on March 13, 2020, 02:55:36 AM
Congratulations. I didn't know you had to pay to go through the police academy. So awesome to see motivated young people. Keep safe out there and thank you for supporting your community and putting yourself in harms way to do so!

In the State of Florida, unless you get sponsorship from an agency/department (which is very, very rare) you'll have to pay out of pocket to sponsor yourself. Thank you for the kind words. It's a great career and I love what I do. The goal is to make it through training so I can keep my spot!
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: Tamer on March 14, 2020, 06:53:20 AM
I wish you the best of luck. With your motivation I am sure you will exceed!
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: RC-1136 on March 14, 2020, 06:25:42 PM
I wish you the best of luck. With your motivation I am sure you will exceed!

I will say nights are screwing my circadian rhythm up really badly.  So that is a huge challenge. And learning every nook and cranny of an unfamiliar city.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: Clonehead on March 18, 2020, 03:57:56 AM
Cool thread.
  That would be quite a challenge.
We go down to SE Florida once a year but I don’t know about this year.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: Tamer on March 18, 2020, 06:18:36 AM
Yes, I am wondering how the coronavirus is being dealt with where you have your training?
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: RC-1136 on March 19, 2020, 04:07:56 AM
To be frank, unless it's a report call or life or death, we are handling typical calls landline (over the phone). I use EXTRA PPE (personal protective equipment) when dealing with anyone. All proactive actions (traffic stops, citizen contacts, etc) have been temporarily suspended by general order. No call is (not) responded to in one way or another. Every call for service is handled. I have 2 nearly gallon dispensers of hand sanitizer in my car doors. I also use wipes, masks, etc. If I have go into businesses/homes.

All jurisdictions within my county (including my city) are following Universal Precautions guidelines.

We are treating it seriously.

One county away they initiated curfew and we have talks about following that model.

I also made an out of county warrant arrest. I sanitized my cuffs with industrial strength medical hand sanitizer at booking...lol
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: Tamer on March 19, 2020, 05:42:28 AM
I figured it was something along those lines. I hope you don't have to deal with crazy folks, but I bet you will. Stay safe.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: RC-1136 on March 19, 2020, 08:27:36 AM
I figured it was something along those lines. I hope you don't have to deal with crazy folks, but I bet you will. Stay safe.

Most of the folks in my city are decent folks. You'll have your occasional domestic and Driving While License Suspended/Revoked (DWLSR), etc...but due to our distance from the jail, with the exception of major stuff, we usually Notice to Appear (NTA) people for most Misdemeanor crimes. It's a paper arrest with a court date with a judge/magistrate. The only exception to that is domestics. There we determine the primary aggressor and physically arrest. Same goes for all felonies and serious crimes. And warrants (both in and out of county).

Our main "crazies" if you will are surrounding jurisdictions we assist when they are tied up elsewhere. Our city is sandwiched between the Sheriff's Office unincorporated section of my city, and the next city over's larger Police Department. So no matter what, we are pretty good about having backup on all calls between the various departments. We are on the same dispatch system across the whole county for all agencies with the exception of two tiny ones.

For example, when I was driving thru the city just before where the county jail was, I provided backup for a county deputy who was doing a traffic stop. A marked city unit just drove by, so I told my Field Training Officer (FTO) we would assist with his stuff until he was done. I refuse to leave them alone until I know they are good.

I had an academy member attended the funeral of Officer Kondak from Tarpon Springs PD. He was killed on a traffic stop by a guy scared of going to jail for a misdemeanor warrant. Shot like 5 times and ran over. Left behind a widow and 7 kids. That was sobering to hear about, because the academy person I knew was his dispatcher when he died.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: Tamer on March 20, 2020, 08:55:40 AM
Sad to hear about the person who was killed over a misdemeanor. I don't know why folks won't rationalize what they do, but humans aren't rationale. Stay safe out there. I hope you don't have to respond to any department stores with fights over toilet paper.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: RC-1136 on March 20, 2020, 05:09:07 PM
Sad to hear about the person who was killed over a misdemeanor. I don't know why folks won't rationalize what they do, but humans aren't rationale. Stay safe out there. I hope you don't have to respond to any department stores with fights over toilet paper.

Lol! Luckily I have only two dollars stores and a RaceTrac gas station here. Everything else is residential.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: Clonehead on March 21, 2020, 02:35:27 AM
That is pretty quiet.
  Are the residents in good spirits about the whole thing?
We arnt too spooked yet.
     The folks are on their way back from ft Myers. They say most of the stores are shut down. Beaches are closed, the Canadian vacationers had their visas revoked and have been in mass exodus for the last week.
     That’s where we go every spring for fun in the sun.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: Tamer on March 21, 2020, 06:29:16 AM
Glad to hear you don't have too much crazy retail. Some of the stories and videos I am seeing are just bad. I can't even see a police officer going into a situation like that without full riot gear. Over toilet paper no less!
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: RC-1136 on March 21, 2020, 06:57:17 AM
That is pretty quiet.
  Are the residents in good spirits about the whole thing?
We arnt too spooked yet.
     The folks are on their way back from ft Myers. They say most of the stores are shut down. Beaches are closed, the Canadian vacationers had their visas revoked and have been in mass exodus for the last week.
     That’s where we go every spring for fun in the sun.

Never use the q-word!  bbfet   Residents are mostly scared, as to be expected. But I try to calm their fears when they speak with us. Mostly it's the older folks who are afraid (our 55+ community). I give them practical advise, based off what the latest stuff given to us from the department...letting them vent a bit helps. Most of them live alone and don't have family down here, as many of them are Canadian snow birds. Ft. Myers is quite a distance from me, I'm closer to Orlando. I live in exactly the middle of the state, but I like that. My girlfriend is in Orlando going to school and my family is back in Tampa. I'm exactly equidistant from both; 60 miles each way, if I visit either of them.


Glad to hear you don't have too much crazy retail. Some of the stories and videos I am seeing are just bad. I can't even see a police officer going into a situation like that without full riot gear. Over toilet paper no less!

Nah, we haven't even really had a theft problem (which shocks me greatly) - I know how to work them from prior LEO experience, but I haven't yet in my town lol. Police work can be really stressful. In the prior city I worked, I had to draw my firearm many times. Luckily, I never had to use it. Usually people really rethink their actions when they have multiple officers aiming weapons at them. I'm thankful for that, because I don't (want) to use it, but I would do so if the life of another or myself was in jeopardy. Honestly - being a cop is so much like being a Jedi, it's not even funny. I'm an officer of the peace and I've had to mediate many situations... from the crazy to the absolutely absurd. Perfect example, I got called to a disturbance... when I get on scene, the guy is arguing with his girlfriend about having a threesome and is upset about it. She wanted MFF threesome (Male-female-female) and he was mad. I'm like, "dude, you're getting a BOGO deal. Be happy!"  It took everything to keep a straight face through the whole thing. LOL! I told them if I had to come back, I would flip through the entire statute book and find something to take someone to jail for... guess what? They shut up.  0/

I'll never forget what my academy director told me: "Dazzle them with your brilliance or baffle them with your bull%$&^!"  And it works. You just have to look and sound confident. Florida laws are kind of hilarious... one of my favorites are milk crates. If someone is sitting on a milk crate and it belongs to an active business (which you must prove), you can arrest for it. It's super petty but if someone is being a problem and you don't have anything else, it just works. And the probable cause affidavits (the written up arrest paper work) reads like something out of a comedy skit.

Here is an example: https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-man-behind-bars-for-having-a-milk-crate

The actual law: http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0500-0599/0506/Sections/0506.509.html
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: Tamer on March 22, 2020, 06:29:22 AM
Wow, those are some strange laws. I bet good ole WV where I live has a few. Man, our governor talked last night and he just looked awful. Glad things are still calm where you are working.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: RC-1136 on March 22, 2020, 07:00:44 AM
Wow, those are some strange laws. I bet good ole WV where I live has a few. Man, our governor talked last night and he just looked awful. Glad things are still calm where you are working.

For the time being. Not sure how long that will continue.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: Tamer on March 22, 2020, 07:25:02 AM
Yeah, I think by the end of the week we are gonna see levels of stupidity we didnt' think were possible and for me thats saying something.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: RC-1136 on March 23, 2020, 10:23:11 AM
Yeah, I think by the end of the week we are gonna see levels of stupidity we didnt' think were possible and for me thats saying something.

You are right. Look what this idiot said.
(https://i.imgur.com/krSImlb.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/pcYE95A.jpg)

https://www.policeone.com/coronavirus-covid-19/articles/fla-official-first-responders-should-take-one-for-the-team-with-covid-19-2HQfkM7c9Tw1Mo8A/
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: Tamer on March 24, 2020, 05:49:46 AM
Ok, well I didn't think it would be quite this soon, by yeah stuff like this. Wow.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: RC-1136 on March 24, 2020, 07:46:20 AM
Ok, well I didn't think it would be quite this soon, by yeah stuff like this. Wow.

I think he should volunteer.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: Tamer on March 25, 2020, 07:08:34 AM
Yeah, I think he should too. It sounds like things are pretty much shutting down around where I live now. Crazy times.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: RC-1136 on March 25, 2020, 11:09:40 PM
Yeah, I think he should too. It sounds like things are pretty much shutting down around where I live now. Crazy times.

The only thing open around here are gas stations, supermarkets, and dollar stores. Everything else is closed or had very reduced hours.

How are people going to keep their homes? Is anyone going to bail those people out? I know big business will be good to go, as always.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: Tamer on March 26, 2020, 07:11:09 AM
Well I guess the economic stimulus bill passed so that will help. Still gotta wonder what will happen though as with this break it will be months if not a year before the economy gets back to working smoothly I would think.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: Clonehead on March 27, 2020, 04:37:13 AM
I do believe that the longer we wait to hit the restart button, the more likely that the economy won’t recover.
  Sucks because our best bet is to stay home for a while.
I don’t think it will be quite the same when we recover from this.

Still hit and miss at work for me, partially because of the weather. Got three days in this week and finished two jobs. I have more coming, further from home, albeit. The Wife is still on 5 hr days.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: RC-1136 on April 14, 2020, 05:36:17 PM
I can't post photographs on my imgur account, so I need a new hosting location. In addition, I got an amazing drug arrest the other day. I got a player.

50.2 grams Marijuana/Cannabis
6.6 Grams of Methamphetamine
LSD Tabs
K2/Spice, under 1 gram
Possession of drug paraphernalia
Possession over 20 grams of Marijuana/Cannabis, with intent to sale.

I made my Sgt and LT very happy lol.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: Tamer on April 15, 2020, 07:54:32 AM
I can't post photographs on my imgur account, so I need a new hosting location.

Is this a new work policy? I know I can't at work either, but at home I am good. You could always just use the attachment feature at the end of the regular post.

Sounds like an awesome drug arrest. Good for you. Stay safe out there in Coronavirus Land.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: RC-1136 on April 15, 2020, 09:58:04 AM
I can't post photographs on my imgur account, so I need a new hosting location.

Is this a new work policy? I know I can't at work either, but at home I am good. You could always just use the attachment feature at the end of the regular post.

Sounds like an awesome drug arrest. Good for you. Stay safe out there in Coronavirus Land.

Nah, nothing like that. Imgur just physically wont upload anything and I don't know why.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: Tamer on April 16, 2020, 04:49:47 AM
Well that stinks. Imgur is working pretty good for me right now.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: RC-1136 on May 12, 2020, 07:12:15 PM
I just cleared FTO last shift. Now to beat 1 year probation.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: Tamer on May 13, 2020, 08:29:58 AM
I just cleared FTO last shift. Now to beat 1 year probation.

So you have a one year probation before you are a full fledged officer? Congrats on clearing FTO. I hope you aren't having to deal with any of these crazy covid spitters I keep hearing about.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: RC-1136 on May 13, 2020, 12:58:59 PM
I just cleared FTO last shift. Now to beat 1 year probation.

So you have a one year probation before you are a full fledged officer? Congrats on clearing FTO. I hope you aren't having to deal with any of these crazy covid spitters I keep hearing about.

I'm already considered full fledged, but clearing probation is a big deal. You become a city employee and thus are a lot harder to get rid of. Prior to the 1 year anniversary date, you could be potentially terminated for anything.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: Tamer on May 14, 2020, 04:28:12 AM
Oh ok, now I get it. How long do you have from now?
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: RC-1136 on May 20, 2020, 04:01:08 AM
Oh ok, now I get it. How long do you have from now?
1 year from date of hire. Which for me was in March.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: Tamer on May 20, 2020, 04:18:57 AM
I have no doubt you will make it and do fine. Still, all those things opening back up in FL make me wonder if you will have much population to police here in a few months.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: RC-1136 on May 31, 2020, 05:43:09 AM
It's a crazy time to be a cop now. The world is a mess and literally on fire.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: Tamer on May 31, 2020, 05:57:14 AM
It's a crazy time to be a cop now. The world is a mess and literally on fire.

Yeah, the major cities close to us are all rioting. I think folks are just sick and tired of being sick and tired. And that thing in Minneapolis is just crazy. I think there is more to the story than we know, but just awful. And then that guy gives the good police like you a bad rap. You stay safe out there bud.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: RC-1136 on May 31, 2020, 08:55:19 PM
It's a crazy time to be a cop now. The world is a mess and literally on fire.

Yeah, the major cities close to us are all rioting. I think folks are just sick and tired of being sick and tired. And that thing in Minneapolis is just crazy. I think there is more to the story than we know, but just awful. And then that guy gives the good police like you a bad rap. You stay safe out there bud.

There certainly is. They both knew each other, which speaks to motive. I think he ran his mouth to the guy who was a cop and he got compromised and went way too far. They were security/bouncers at a club together. If they can prove that, they might seek 1st Degree. But as for the other cops, they should be terminated for just standing there. That's failure to act during a felony situation. They should have torn him off the guy to prevent things from getting that far.

And thank you. I'm doing the best I can given the circumstances.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: JDeck on May 31, 2020, 09:02:26 PM
   I think the logic is they don't want to over charge. They overcharged the officers in Baltimore, and that was it. Richmond is shut down. Someone last night set a house on fire and blocked the road so emergency vehicles couldn't help. These people are nuts. What do you think? Are they mostly Anarchists from out of state or people taking advantage of the situation or a combination? Be safe out there. We appreciate what you guys do.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: RC-1136 on June 01, 2020, 12:01:12 AM
   I think the logic is they don't want to over charge. They overcharged the officers in Baltimore, and that was it. Richmond is shut down. Someone last night set a house on fire and blocked the road so emergency vehicles couldn't help. These people are nuts. What do you think? Are they mostly Anarchists from out of state or people taking advantage of the situation or a combination? Be safe out there. We appreciate what you guys do.

Definitely a combo. And they are all pieces of crap. They have victimized so many people.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: Tamer on June 01, 2020, 07:26:17 AM
This bugs me because the vast majority of police are gonna have to bear the brundt of this violent policeman who was probably just trying to settle a private score with a co-worker. And then, we can't focus on the real issue here because of all the violence caused by the riots. I have seen and read so much hate on facebook I am staying off of there except to post customs.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: RC-1136 on June 01, 2020, 10:59:53 AM
This bugs me because the vast majority of police are gonna have to bear the brundt of this violent policeman who was probably just trying to settle a private score with a co-worker. And then, we can't focus on the real issue here because of all the violence caused by the riots. I have seen and read so much hate on facebook I am staying off of there except to post customs.

I've had family members who've even turned to hate. And it's disgusting. I deleted ALL of my social media.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: Tamer on June 02, 2020, 07:22:47 AM
I deleted ALL of my social media.

I can sure understand it. I mainly use social media to promote customizing or I would too and still might. I just can't stand that kind of idiocy and having my nose rubbed in it.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: RC-1136 on June 03, 2020, 06:38:10 PM
I deleted ALL of my social media.

I can sure understand it. I mainly use social media to promote customizing or I would too and still might. I just can't stand that kind of idiocy and having my nose rubbed in it.

I feel I'm living in an upside down clown world. What's happening is not only mind boggling, but just outright anarchy. 
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: Tamer on June 04, 2020, 05:25:17 AM
I still cling to the hope that the majority of people are still good out in the world. This week I have wavered a bit, but I am still optimistic.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: RC-1136 on June 04, 2020, 11:15:21 PM
I still cling to the hope that the majority of people are still good out in the world. This week I have wavered a bit, but I am still optimistic.

Things have gone from bad to worse. My girlfriend of 3 1/2 years - of whom I had built a huge relationship with and was potentially going to tie the knot with has left me. We bonded with Star Wars... so now that feels really tainted and painful.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: Tamer on June 05, 2020, 07:11:26 AM
Wow, RC!

You are having one rough month in a year of rough years. I am sorry about your GF. Still, glad you found out now rather than later when you were married and perhaps had kids. Still sorry to hear this though.
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: RC-1136 on June 06, 2020, 12:27:07 PM
Wow, RC!

You are having one rough month in a year of rough years. I am sorry about your GF. Still, glad you found out now rather than later when you were married and perhaps had kids. Still sorry to hear this though.

It's been really shit lately. I'm trying my best to stay positive but I can't seem to catch a break. lol
Title: Re: First Responders and Military
Post by: Tamer on June 07, 2020, 06:06:59 AM
Thats all you can do. I have a feeling new years celebrations this year are gonna be wild as folks kiss this daggone year goodbye!