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So how do you feel about this line?
« on: December 14, 2013, 10:16:16 AM »
From both a collecting and customizing point of view?

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I got started thinking about this the other night while we were podcasting on Custom Action Figure News and talking with Glorbes about whats on the pegs. Chad and I both commented that our brick and mortar stores might be hard to find new figures as they are so back logged with Wave One Fiigures. Is anyone else seeing this? It might be spring before I am able to see a full set of wave two figures let alone Wave 3 figures. Hasbro even commented about how they knew this was the reason the vintage line fizzled so why do they always bring their newer, never before released figures out in full force in later waves and always start with left overs? It is like not being able to get a new meal until you eat up all the leftovers. I mean the etailers now are selling wave one black series figures for like three dollars a figure if you want em, but we know that for most us our brick and mortar stores, even when they go to clearance won't move those wave one figures and then we know wave two will just see some of those same cloggers all over again.

Then, I see etailers like amazon and Hasbro Toy Shop offering Wave 2 and even Wave 3 figures (missed my Plagueis daggone it!) many times at discounted prices for just released figures and it seems to just make sense to get yourself an online account and go to etailers nowadays. If you compare the gas savings to what you might have to pay in shipping (a lot of free shipping on orders out there now) it just seems a no brainer. I know there are other issues associated with this like card condition and perhaps slightly inflated prices from some etailers, but do any of you think that the wave of collecting in the future is going to mostly mean online only?

And then we see new products in the form of the six inch line that brick and mortar stores aren't willing to carry (like Wal-mart and the six inch line) because they have been burnt by Hasbro so many times that they refuse to take a gamble on trying new things. It wouldn't surprise me in the least to see many of those larger stores that used to do an exclusive a year stop that altogether over this fear. In one way that doesn't irritate me too bad as exclusives are just so hard to come by at times, but it is another indicator that major retailers are loosing confidence in Hasbro. I guess we can all hope 2015 will rekindle the collecting fire with the release of Episode 7 Action Figures, but I am so worried they will try to repack these lamo figures we all know they won't be able to sell now or have so many repacks to new figure ratios that even newer action figure lines for new movie releases will be doomed to failure.

So, a bit of a rant, but I tried to back it up a bit and would love to hear the take the fine folks here have on this issue. I didn't even really cover the trend to reduce the super articulation in figures making it even harder to find good figures to customize. I also know there will be some of us that will never be satisfied, but as a whole are you satisfied with how the Black Series Line is being released and the case assortments and waves that have been released in your stores?
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Re: So how do you feel about this line?
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2013, 11:13:14 AM »
Here is even more proof with some even crazier prices from amazon:

And the crazy low prices continue:



You can pick up Black Series Wave 1 and 2 three and three quarter inch figures for two to three dollars a figure now! Click this link to go see what they have.

Then, as if that were not enough they have the price on the new Six Inch Greedo listed at $9 dollars and the Six Inch R2D2 and Six Inch Pilot Luke Skywalker at $10 dollars.

The trend is being set to just wait on the figures you may want that probably won't be in as high a demand as perhaps a six inch Boba Fett or a Darth Plagueis and get ahead in this game.

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Re: So how do you feel about this line?
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2013, 12:03:07 PM »
I don't know what to think. I just hope Hasbro continue's to make figures, hopefully of ones most people want.

I've been buying most of mine online anyway.
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Re: So how do you feel about this line?
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2013, 08:18:35 AM »
I cant find anything worth buying at the stores. But my amazon cart is full. I liked your leftovers analogy. It feels like that for sure. I went to WalMart just two days ago and all i saw was VC Obiwan and QuiGon. Kmart has the 6" and 3 3/4 Black, but still wave 1. As for Plagueis, sadly, this is a figure i doubt will ever sit on my shelf. I refuse to pay $60 for a piece of plastic. Hasbro packs their cases like baseball cards. Showing my age here, but in 1989, good luck finding a Ken Griffey Jr rookie card. Hasbro does the same sh*t with figures like Plagueis and Malgus and Galen Marik. Is their business model successful? What does Hasbro get from having those figures sell for so much on the secondary market. Im no business executive, but don't you think that if they made the product available at standard prices, we would buy them? I would. But i cant find them at retail, and like i said, im not paying scalper prices for 3" pieces of plastic. Hasbro's distribution and case assortments suck. And now they are pushing 5 POA on us. I wish another company would pick up this line.

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Re: So how do you feel about this line?
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2013, 09:47:22 AM »
I've been buying most of mine online anyway.

Me too Rune and it seems the trend is to continue that or just not get what you want imo.

I wish another company would pick up this line.

I am definitely there too Hand So Low. I even made a bold prediction last night on a podcast that a company like Galactic Merchants, if they had enough start up capital, could really run with the SW license. I hate that I feel like I am always bashing on Hasbro as they have given us some great figures, but the way they distribute them and make up their case assortments just makes me want to pull my hair out!

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Re: So how do you feel about this line?
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2013, 09:06:53 PM »
It really is mind boggling to see the state of the retail situation with Hasbro's figures these days... I'm just blown away that Hasbro continues to make the same mistakes...

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Re: So how do you feel about this line?
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2013, 03:08:52 AM »
It really is mind boggling to see the state of the retail situation with Hasbro's figures these days... I'm just blown away that Hasbro continues to make the same mistakes...

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Ditto. I can't see how there is so much disconnect with their product. And to start this line with carry forwards and repacks, not very good ones at that, just seems inexcusable with the debacle they created with so much Episode I on the pegs last year. I just have to hope that Disney, whom we all know is very conscious of their product lines, will let them know their displeasure.

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Re: So how do you feel about this line?
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2014, 09:45:02 AM »
The Black Series here in my area (Sydney, Australia) is selling BUT a few of the figure are peg warming (Biggs, Bespin Vader, AOTC Anakin, Biker Scout & Padme) and the Plageius wave is hitting in dribs and drabs here and there...my local TRU got 1 case of the Plageius wave and nothing since.  I'm actually disappointed in the Black Series so far from a new figure standpoint...I mean so far we've gotten soooo many rehashes of the same old figures we've seen before, I mean really did we need another Biggs?

IMO the Black Series should of been a fresh start, completely revamp the SW brand figure wise with characters that haven't been done before...several waves like that with characters like:
Sim Aloo
Sy Snootles (original OT version)
Arliel Schous
Rycar Ryjerd
Rayc Ryjerd
Boelo
Gela Yeens
Power Droid (based on the Kenner version)
Bespin Security Guard (moustached)
Bespin Security Guard (bearded)
Chyler
Wiorkettle
Treva Horme
Chokk
Tey How
Mon Cal Opera Dancer
Salporin (EU)
Lowbacca
Tig Fromm
Vlix
Sise Fromm
Jord Dusat
Kea Moll
Thall Joban
Mungo Baobab
Leebo-2D9
Commander Vanden Willard
Commander Hudsol
Rebel Commando (Kenner version)
Nic Sant
Captain Lennox
Admiral Piett
Captain Khurgee
Officer Evax
Warrant Officer M'kae
Harc Seff
Shasa Tiel
Jess
Laudica
Danz Borin
Unut Poll
C-3PO with Removable Limbs
Jawas (2 pack with all soft goods)
Chukah-Trok & Kaink
Ugnaughts (2 pack)
Tzizvvt
Mosep
Tawss Khaa
Melas
Tessek
Garoun Nas Tal
Sgt. Doallyn
Holographic Imperial Officer
Lt. Shan Childsen
Sate Pestage
Reegesk
Fozec
Yerka Mig
Debnoli
Cane Adiss
Geezum
Beedo
Navik the Red
Ars Dangor
Lee Phenets
Solamahal
Ket Maliss
General Walex Blissex
Lt. Skeckil
Kitster & Wald
Aehrrley Rue
Teyora Rekab
Rango 'Tank Head' Tel
Erdan
Ko Sai
Senator Tikkes
Senator Mot Not Rab
Senator Edcel Bar Gane
Commander Praji
Deej & Shodu
Clegg Lars
Robo Legs Maul (realistic)
Savage Opress (realistic)
Mother Talzin (realistic)
Cad Bane (realistic)
Hondo Ohnaka (realistic)
Admiral Yularen (realistic)
Pre Vizsla (realistic)
Highsinger (realistic)
Kilani (realistic)
Gregor (realistic)
Lux Bonteri (realistic)
........anyway, you get my drift!

To me the the only decent figure in the Black Series so far is Pablo-Jill and he's 100 times better than the original in sooooo many ways.  I'm hanging for the Snowtrooper Commander now.  

I really can't see Hasbro going out on too much of a limb with "blink and you'll miss them" characters too much though and once the Sequels hit o think we'll be all waving bye bye to any chance of seeing them, sadly.  Hasbro have really dropped the ball and it's no wonder collectors are losing confidence in them and are looking elsewhere to get their SW fix.  I personally know of some collectors who have given Hasbro the boot and have moved on to Sideshow and other companies.  

Time will tell if Disney improves things BUT with the current crop of 5POA crap in stores with Disney improve distribution yet what we get in stores will be quantity instead of quality?...time will tell

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