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Imperial Surplus Sales => Star Wars Sales => Topic started by: RavenEye on September 08, 2011, 09:47:51 AM
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After reading Clonehead's post, I opened the joint and found that the joint is now has a second tear in the same place on the other side! Ugh, my favorite vehicle now having a soft spot for Rebels to say shoot at. Here's the pics. Also, I think I know why they keep breaking in the same spots. If you look at the second pic you'll see the joint connected to leg connector. Well, I can't get the joint out or turn it. So with that in mind, I said "Oh, now I know why.". The joint has too much pressure from being too tight on the leg connector. Making the piece were mine split being a soft spot when turning the leg.
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n553/Orangepauldron/BrokenJoint3.jpg)
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n553/Orangepauldron/BrokenJoint4.jpg)
Here's my joint problem.
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n553/Orangepauldron/BrokenJoint1.jpg)
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n553/Orangepauldron/BrokenJoint2.jpg)
Hello, the bottom pic is not mine; but to symbolize what I need. I circled the the joint. It seems that even if you got your AT-ST above 2 ft. of ground can still break the joint if the impact hits it. Mine is split in 2 and superglue doesn't even help.
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n553/Orangepauldron/at-stimg_9265.jpg)
If anyone has a broken AT-ST and has a complete joint like the one circled please PM me.
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I would try a drilling and pinning procedure on that part, Orange. Superglue would work in that circumstance.
Just drill a hole in either piece of the part so that one length of wire will fit in the two holes once the pieces are joined together and seal the deal with glue.
I usually use a pin vise "finger drill" and use a length of copper electrical or craft wire for the pin.
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thats the same area mine broke but on the back part..........it still stands but in an awkwardly-wide position...
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If you can get me a few pics and and a detailed description of this issue I would love to see what Hasbro says about fixing this problem! Sounds kind of like the first AT-TE leg issues.
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Yeah, it seems so. I wonder why H didn't make the joint out of rubber or soft plastic? Would've held better and not broke like mine and Spookys.
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the problem is, it's very brittle plastic and it snaps pretty easily. Mine fell about 3ft to the ground (thanks to the dog) and snapped. But I have seen other people report them breaking with less stress. I even heard the Target exclusive AT-ST is even more brittle then the Walmart one.
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Hm..., this needs to be addressed. I've had this thing for 2 years and suddenly I bump into it and it falls at 2 ft. and cracks the joint?! And the problem is, it's a Wally exclusive so how if I called would big H handle this problem? I mean last year I bought the TFU set on sale that was already 1 year old and it was missing starkiller's force lightning. H gave me another one after sending the screwed up one to them. Though that was a year difference, now we're talking about 2! Would H even have another one to offer if I contacted them?
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Well Hasbro does have a customer service email addy for those of you who want to email directly, but I am going to take your pics and description of the problem and email my hasbro contact directly to see if he can place the issue in the right hands for a quicker and perhaps better follow up. If nothing else, we would use this as one of our hasbro q and a questions. Just from doing a little snooping on a couple boards last night I can see this is a pretty widespread problem. Not sure why we haven't all gotten together and addressed it before.
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Clint's fox would work well or you could try something I have been experamenting with...plastic welding with a sodering iron. You simply touch the 2 parts together and spot weld it melting the 2 edges of plasic together. You can also add material from bits of plastic or a plastic baggie.
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I could fix this part, orange. Pull the screws and remove the part. If you send it to me, I'll patch it up for you.
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I could fix this part, orange. Pull the screws and remove the part. If you send it to me, I'll patch it up for you.
You know I was thinking of you when I saw these pics this morning Clint. If anyone can fix this, it would be the Clonehead.
I am also interested in seeing if anyone else is having these issues too before I send in my email. Going to the fp.
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had to correct my last post
I even heard the Target exclusive AT-ST is even more brittle then the Walmart Exclusive.
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I have a similar issue on my Walmart version. I bought it used and it came to me like that :( Not sure if it broke during shipping or if the seller sent it like that.
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Sounds like I need to offer a service to fix an atst joint in trade for the figure upcs that I need.
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After reading Clonehead's post, I opened the joint and found that the joint is now has a second tear in the same place on the other side! Ugh, my favorite vehicle now having a soft spot for Rebels to say shoot at. Here's the pics. Also, I think I know why they keep breaking in the same spots. If you look at the second pic you'll see the joint connected to leg connector. Well, I can't get the joint out or turn it. So with that in mind, I said "Oh, now I know why.". The joint has too much pressure from being too tight on the leg connector. Making the piece were mine split being a soft spot when turning the leg.
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n553/Orangepauldron/BrokenJoint3.jpg)
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n553/Orangepauldron/BrokenJoint4.jpg)
Here's my joint problem.
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n553/Orangepauldron/BrokenJoint1.jpg)
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n553/Orangepauldron/BrokenJoint2.jpg)
Hello, the bottom pic is not mine; but to symbolize what I need. I circled the the joint. It seems that even if you got your AT-ST above 2 ft. of ground can still break the joint if the impact hits it. Mine is split in 2 and superglue doesn't even help.
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n553/Orangepauldron/at-stimg_9265.jpg)
If anyone has a broken AT-ST and has a complete joint like the one circled please PM me.
I figured that there was some kind of mushroom shaped peg back there. If you were to squeeze the two parts of the peg head together, would it pull out of the other side.
I can still fix it, Orange. I would just have to drill and pin both ends of both pieces and glue it together to seal the deal. It might not be sturdy enough to stage, say, an atst demolition derby match, but it should hold up to normal posing. So the joint where the mushroom peg is is too tight? We could fix that too, one way or another.
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I had one break when my boys were just modifing the legs on a dio they just moved it slowly and broke so I clued it together and we just play with the other one.
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Mine fell off my shelf and broke too my dad stuck it together and put some glue on it it was alright but that joint doesn't move now. >:(
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this is sounding more common all the time. I wonder about the possibility of molding and casting this piece.
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this is sounding more common all the time. I wonder about the possibility of molding and casting this piece.
well, are you here in the US?
if so, I could send you the piece and see if you can fix it/cast it, then send me a new piece :)
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Yep, I am in Mo.
I have a good atst on hand and am just shy of taking it apart and getting a closer look.
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I'll be interested to see what you come up with.
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over all i had 3of mine break the same way so i turned them into rebel turrets lol but yea they were made crappy =[
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Well, i got the part from Orange in the mail today. For the life of me, I can't get the mushroom peg to turn either. I see where the outside of it's hole has the octagon shape that the peg does and assume that it is supposed to expand when you turn it and then slip into place within the octagon. I will have to have another look to see how to get it moving again.
I had worked on this right after getting home from work and my hands were still grubby.
Now the broken joint wasn't too much of a chore to patch up. I just cleaned up the dried glue where orange had glued it together, fit the pieces together and held them In place while I used the pin-vise to drill a hole from the outside of one half to the outside of the other half on both sides where the breaks were. I then cut a length of craft wire long enough to penetrate both pieces but not extend beyond the outside and super glued both pieces of wire prior to inserting them through the drilled holes. after pin insertion, I added more superglue to the joint of the break to fill the crack and to the top and bottom of both sets of pin holes.
After using some CA glue accelerator to quicken the bonding process, I filed the break points smooth and then painted with Model Master flat gull grey which was a pretty close match to the plastic color. These shots were taken prior to the paint drying and the paint darkened a touch as it dried.
The broken joint should be good to go now and is probably stronger than when it came from the factory.
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6176/6170958846_a9af08f2b0.jpg)
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6155/6170958858_d7db7c8d96.jpg)
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6168/6170425549_acf5be47d5.jpg)
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6159/6170958882_8fdb8e4b0d.jpg)
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6165/6170425579_d97d84048f.jpg)
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6165/6170425607_48c208fa3f.jpg)
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Yepper, knew the Clonehead would figure it out.
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DH Yeah that mushroom piece is troublesome. It turns when connected to the leg, but when alone. It's like WTF? Thanks for help man. Can't wait to see it on the the leg again. DH
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OK, I took another look at the mushroom peg and here is what I came up with. Pic 1 is just to show how after the paint dried it got pretty close to the factory color.
In pic 2, as you look into the hollow cavity inside the mushroom peg, you can see that strip of horizontal plastic that is cast into the part. That strip of plastic is designed to keep that peg spread apart to prevent the peg from wearing too loose over time. My guess is that they were trying to avoid the fiasco that the at-te suffered with its pegs being so loose from the factory that the legs would fall off. Unfortunately, this design makes the peg way too tight and with temperature changes parts have a tendency to contract or expand which, in this case, would prevent the peg from spinning at all and ultimately cause the break in the other joint.
What I did is I took my hobby knife and cut that little strip of plastic inside the peg in half which gave it more room but I left those pieces inside so that when the peg flexes that those two ends would bump together and still prevent the peg from getting too loose. The peg now spins with the normal amount of force that it should take but is plenty ridged enough to hold each position around the octagon shape of the peg.
This part should be good to go now.
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6152/6171187960_fc715c4bc4.jpg)
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6165/6171187986_05cd1d270c.jpg)
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Well Clint that is one slick fix my friend. Just awesome. I wish we had you on the design team.
Check out my comments on the front page.
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ok my son's did the same but in 3 pieces! Clonehead help if you can!
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Its high time I emailed my hasbro contact as this is too widespread to be a few isolated incidents. I will include this thread link in my email. All they can do is not respond right?
Remember folks, Hasbro also has a customer service email and phone number you can access off their site I do believe too.
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Its high time I emailed my hasbro contact as this is too widespread to be a few isolated incidents. I will include this thread link in my email. All they can do is not respond right?
Remember folks, Hasbro also has a customer service email and phone number you can access off their site I do believe too.
And you know Tamer what is really silly is That Lucas doesn't really play with it. He is more a collector who displays his toys so for this to break is ridiculous!
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Sometimes I don't think any of the newer Hasbro Toys will ever get the vintage label as for all of Kenner's flaws their toys still seem to stay together.
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Yep, more of the same. send it on and i will get it patched up.
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So i hate to bump an old thread but I recently procured one of these legacy AT-St's and it had the same mushroom joint broken. I was wondering if Clonehead still worked on them... or..
if someone has had the idea to take one out of the assembly and cast it in a softer rubber silocon to keep the strength but making it more flexible?
I'm willing to send mine to someone to try the cast idea if needed! hehe.
-Rez
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Clonehead is about the only one I know who has fixed this.