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Title: An Epiphany of Old Republic Proportions
Post by: smeagol92055 on December 14, 2010, 07:40:43 PM
So, I've been waiting and waiting for Hasbro to come out with a Knights of the Old Republic line, and I realize now that outside of the HK-47 and the Revan and Malak figures, it's probably never going to happen.

Here's what I'm going to do: I'm going to buy a bunch of junk/surplus figures, hack 'em apart, and then make my own line of KotOR/KotOR II figures, complete with my own "Evolutions" style line of figures for a few of the custom choices for the Revan and Exile figures.

I'll be posting pictures of my progress!  Anyone know if there are any Wookiee figures on the market other than Chewbacca?  I need some bases for Zaalbar and Hanhaar.
Title: Re: An Epiphany of Old Republic Proportions
Post by: DocOutlands on December 14, 2010, 07:49:32 PM
The ROTS line had several Wooks, inc. Tarfful, a couple of warriors, and the senator.
Title: Re: An Epiphany of Old Republic Proportions
Post by: smeagol92055 on December 14, 2010, 07:56:18 PM
The ROTS line had several Wooks, inc. Tarfful, a couple of warriors, and the senator.

I figured there were some Wookiees in the RotS line.  Thanks! I'll be looking for them online.
Title: Re: An Epiphany of Old Republic Proportions
Post by: Mungo Baobab on December 14, 2010, 08:13:43 PM
Sounds like an awesome idea. You should think about posting the reference pics along side your figures.
Title: Re: An Epiphany of Old Republic Proportions
Post by: Jedi Minstrel on December 14, 2010, 08:28:24 PM
Can't wait.
Title: Re: An Epiphany of Old Republic Proportions
Post by: smeagol92055 on December 14, 2010, 08:42:39 PM
I'm already planning out which figures I'm going to need.  I know Carth Onasi is wearing Luke's jacket from the medal ceremony scene, so that's a figure I'll need.  The Mandalorian figures could be more difficult, what with their helmets, but I'm pretty sure there's an Evolutions line of Mandalorians with the right helmet sculpt.
Title: Re: An Epiphany of Old Republic Proportions
Post by: Mungo Baobab on December 14, 2010, 09:00:49 PM
Any thoughts if you even will make any of these characters?

Darth Sion
Darth Nihilus
Reven
Bao-Dur
Jedi Exile
Title: Re: An Epiphany of Old Republic Proportions
Post by: smeagol92055 on December 14, 2010, 09:23:11 PM
Any thoughts if you even will make any of these characters?

Darth Sion
Darth Nihilus
Reven
Bao-Dur
Jedi Exile

I'm making all of the characters.  This is going to take some time.  I'm actually considering making two complete versions of the casts, light and dark side, but for now I'll do the light side figures first.
Title: Re: An Epiphany of Old Republic Proportions
Post by: smeagol92055 on December 14, 2010, 09:30:31 PM
Sorry for the double post, but I actually just realized that I could theoretically make molds for all of the characters and build them from scratch, rather than buying a crapload of figures.  This would make making the light and dark variants a lot easier.  I'll be reading the resin and casting threads to see if I could realistically do this.  Anyone know if this is worth it, or should I just buy up a lot of surplus figures?
Title: Re: An Epiphany of Old Republic Proportions
Post by: DocOutlands on December 14, 2010, 10:05:48 PM
If you ever figure out how to cheaply and effectively make functional joints, let me know.
Title: Re: An Epiphany of Old Republic Proportions
Post by: SITHHAPPENS on December 14, 2010, 10:19:47 PM
anxiously awaiting those figures for kotor is one of my favorite games !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: An Epiphany of Old Republic Proportions
Post by: Phatty on December 15, 2010, 06:02:28 AM
For the most part, you're right; Hasbro is just missing the boat.  They are doing Bastilla Shan later this year (Mold seen in ToyFare last month), and I thought a Jolee Bindo as well, but you never know.  We the collectors have told Hasbro they'd be a hot seller for years now, and they scoff at our beliefs.  Silly Hasbro!  In any case, I can't wait to see what you come up with for all of these!
Title: Re: An Epiphany of Old Republic Proportions
Post by: beige-4 on December 15, 2010, 08:42:48 AM
they did a rohlan dyre and zarael in that ee comic pack
Title: Re: An Epiphany of Old Republic Proportions
Post by: smeagol92055 on December 15, 2010, 01:37:20 PM
For the most part, you're right; Hasbro is just missing the boat.  They are doing Bastilla Shan later this year (Mold seen in ToyFare last month), and I thought a Jolee Bindo as well, but you never know.  We the collectors have told Hasbro they'd be a hot seller for years now, and they scoff at our beliefs.  Silly Hasbro!  In any case, I can't wait to see what you come up with for all of these!

I know, right?  You'd think the fans would be Hasbro's first source of "what's hot."
I'll have to look up that Bastilla mold, though; if they're planning on a KotOR line, I might not have to make anything!

...not that that will stop me.
Title: Re: An Epiphany of Old Republic Proportions
Post by: Mungo Baobab on December 15, 2010, 02:44:01 PM
Go ahead and make yours. They will be better than the factory made.  For some reason Hasbro, at the very least, fails to even Google a character reference picture when making figures.  They often get the wrong colors, bad sculpts, and the wrong details.
Title: Re: An Epiphany of Old Republic Proportions
Post by: smeagol92055 on December 15, 2010, 05:55:09 PM
So, over on io9.com (not plugging, I promise,) I mentioned my idea to custom-mold these figures and now I'm actually getting requests for orders.  I'm wondering, how do I go about doing that?  I can't exactly make figures for money, as it would be copyright infringement, but the funds from the orders would definitely help me with the molding process.  Any ideas?
Title: Re: An Epiphany of Old Republic Proportions
Post by: Mungo Baobab on December 16, 2010, 02:47:46 PM
Hmm...that is a good question. I mean, I have seen people sell customs on eBay, however, I don't know if it is legal or not.
Title: Re: An Epiphany of Old Republic Proportions
Post by: hannsfartknocker on December 17, 2010, 07:28:13 AM
I believe Lucas would do something about it if it were illegal
Title: Re: An Epiphany of Old Republic Proportions
Post by: DocOutlands on December 17, 2010, 08:35:53 AM
In general, recasters are left alone as long as they are 1) small-scale in operation, 2) aren't passing the work off as their own, and 3) not charging stupidly large amounts for their work.  I think also offering just parts rather than entire figures helps.
Title: Re: An Epiphany of Old Republic Proportions
Post by: Tamer on December 17, 2010, 09:50:35 AM
There are some interesting plans here, I can't wait to see your progress.
Title: Re: An Epiphany of Old Republic Proportions
Post by: Mungo Baobab on December 18, 2010, 07:39:34 PM
I know. I can't wait to see these myself. A KOTOR or The Old Republic toy line would be SO awesome and I believe, IMHO, very successful.  They could re-release the games for the newer systems, have combo packs with exclusive figures, and even more comic packs. They are seriously missing the boat.
Title: Re: An Epiphany of Old Republic Proportions
Post by: smeagol92055 on December 21, 2010, 09:05:57 PM
I know. I can't wait to see these myself. A KOTOR or The Old Republic toy line would be SO awesome and I believe, IMHO, very successful.  They could re-release the games for the newer systems, have combo packs with exclusive figures, and even more comic packs. They are seriously missing the boat.


Am I the only one that thinks toy companies are seriously missing out on tie-in possibility?  Like, buy a toy, get an exclusive code for DLC for the game it goes to.
But some KOTOR toys, get unlockable skins or alternate weapons or outfits or even exclusive levels, concept art and music via your live platform.  I can't be the only one that thinks that would sell figures like hotcakes.
Title: Re: An Epiphany of Old Republic Proportions
Post by: Clonehead on December 22, 2010, 05:37:00 AM
One of the reasons recasters are left alone is because unpainted parts generally don't constitute copyright infringement in appearance because they are a different color than the original part in the same way that a person could negate the copyright of an image by inverting it or changing the colors used.

The name that you give these parts is another matter as lucasfilm ltd owns all of the names. For example, they would own the name "clone trooper"
Title: Re: An Epiphany of Old Republic Proportions
Post by: Tamer on December 22, 2010, 07:05:57 AM
See some of the past Hasbro answers for some of the figures we have asked about that would sell great. Lets just say you won't leave that reading feeling very good. It is kind of like the Republic Commandos, or Revan and Malak. The demand is very high for those figures, but do you ever think we will see these in the legends or heroes line ups?

Common sense would make these figures you are wanting great sellers, but you know how the rest of the saying goes.
Title: Re: An Epiphany of Old Republic Proportions
Post by: beige-4 on December 22, 2010, 07:50:27 AM
i think they should make more characters like from kotor right up to the vuuzhaan vony i.e death troopers .imagine that 5 different sculpt deathtroopers !!
Title: Re: An Epiphany of Old Republic Proportions
Post by: Mungo Baobab on December 22, 2010, 11:06:54 AM
I agree with all of you. Let's over-throw the Hasbro Star Wars division and run it ourselves.  OK, maybe that is a bit extreme.
Title: Re: An Epiphany of Old Republic Proportions
Post by: damonsfast on December 22, 2010, 12:02:18 PM
noway we could run it like kings and there stock would go back up too

and i love the kotor idea
Title: Re: An Epiphany of Old Republic Proportions
Post by: Mungo Baobab on December 25, 2010, 07:30:58 AM
Merry Christmas!
Title: Re: An Epiphany of Old Republic Proportions
Post by: beige-4 on December 25, 2010, 07:58:00 AM
merry christmas
Title: Re: An Epiphany of Old Republic Proportions
Post by: Mungo Baobab on January 01, 2011, 10:06:50 PM
Happy New Year!