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Imperial Entertainment TV and Movies => Star Wars Television => Topic started by: DarthHawk on August 01, 2022, 11:18:15 AM
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I don't see a thread for this show so I hope it's ok that I have started one.
This could possibly be the 2nd best Star Wars production dudsney has created. Number 1 being Rogue 1.
Sucks that the premier has been pushed back but I might actually look forward to this.
At least a little bit. Enjoy the trailer.
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This is good news. We should have an actual level of realism to the sets instead of a background that looks like a high school stage play.
From Empire magazine with new image:
Upcoming Rogue One prequel series Andor – telling the story of Diego Luna’s rebel Cassian Andor amid the rising rebellion in the five years running up to that movie – went predominantly practical with its environments. That meant building massive sets at Pinewood, heading out into the world to shoot on location, and leaving the video wall behind altogether. “Yep, we’re old-school,” chuckles series mastermind (and Rogue One alumnus) Tony Gilroy, in Empire’s major new Andor feature – coming soon in the House Of The Dragon issue. “We didn’t use StageCraft at all.” It’s a choice that looks set to add even more grit and earthiness to a series all about capturing that texture, set at a time when the Star Wars galaxy is a particularly dark and dangerous place to be.?
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The effect was the opposite of dark and dangerous for Andor's cast. “As an actor, it’s beautiful,” says Luna on the practical production. “Everything is mechanical. You’re interacting with real stuff.” Fiona Shaw, who plays Maarva in the series, also revelled in the practicality. “My character’s house is built from parts of old spaceships,” she says. “I used to go out and just stare at it. Breathtaking.” The only downside? Shooting with expansive vistas occasionally meant some big, long walks. “In Pitlochry, Scotland, we had to walk for hours up a mountain to set up one shot,” says Luna. “Huge effort. Really dangerous to get there. All you can see around you is sky, trees, rivers, lakes. Amazing! Like being on another planet.” Prepare for Andor to make the Star Wars galaxy feel bigger than ever before.?
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Thanks for starting a thread on this. I am hopeful.
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As with anything modern LucasFilm,
Cautiously optimistic.
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As with anything modern LucasFilm,
Cautiously optimistic.
Summed up my thinking on this new show too. Hopeful, but not gonna get rocked out of shape if its awful.
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I just saw the newest trailer for Andor while watching Americas Got Talent. HOLY CRAPPOLA BATMAN!!!!
This show could be the schizzle we have been waiting for.
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I am looking forward too it.
I am just hoping they don't take away my like for Rogue One.
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Thanks for sharing the latest trailer, which I hadn't watched, yet. I value the dialogue in it. Last Thursday was Disney+ Day and they had an exclusive 9 minute commentary on the production of Andor to watch just on this day. But I'm sure it will be available again once the show aired.
I must say I'm carefully optimistic by now. I like the mood of the trailers so far. When the show was announced I expected it to be boring because of Andor's plot armor. BUT he is one of my favorite characters in Rogue One and what's not exiting about the story of a Rebel agent? I had to remind myself that it's not about telling, but more about showing his life before his final operation. It'll be brilliant to see how the New Republic transforms into Sidious' Galactic Empire in life-action.
May the Force be with all of us, again!
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This show keeps looking better and better.
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Looking forward to it, I think.
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It's 12 pm here in Germany and the first 3 Episodes of Andor are available now. I'm so tempted to take a glimpse, but I'm waiting for my brother so that we can watch them together tonight.
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Just finished episode 1. I'll go into more detail later but this was a decent 50 minutes or so.
Enjoyable to watch but quite slow moving for a lot of it.
I'm hoping that's because it's a set up episode.
More later.
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I haven't watched it yet, had too much to do last night. Hopefully I can get at least one watched tonight. I am hearing good things.
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I haven't watched it yet, had too much to do last night. Hopefully I can get at least one watched tonight. I am hearing good things.
My brother was too tired last night, so we only watched the first episode.
I wouldn't watch it with my children though. At least not the first 10-15 minutes.
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Ah, my daughter is 16. I figure she can handle it.
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Yeah, I think that's the appropriate PG rating. Have fun watching the show together tonight!
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Yeah, I think that's the appropriate PG rating. Have fun watching the show together tonight!
Thanks Philipp and thanks for the warning, I am sure there are some out there that would like to know so their little ones don't get harmed right from the get go.
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Ah, my daughter is 16. I figure she can handle it.
You're a lucky man Tamer.
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I wasn't overly impressed.
It was neither good, nor bad, just kind of "there".
The plot(s) moved at a glacial pace and the majority of characters we are introduced to are paper thin.
I do like the practical sets and the look at the galaxy from a working man's perspective. Plus, the actress that plays Bix is gorgeous!
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Bix ix a babe and a half. HUBBA HUBBA!
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Bix ix a babe and a half. HUBBA HUBBA!
I fell in love with her in "Good Omens".
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Thanks Ron, I think so too.
As for Andor I got the first episode in last night. I am kinda with Dan. It is Star Wars, but I haven't been wowed one way or the other yet. I will keep watching. I agree on the glacial pace of the plot though.
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I watched the second and third episode yesterday and am looking forward to the fourth!
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I'm half way through the 2nd episode. "YAWN" The show is good, has a nice StarWarsy feel to it but as has been mentioned before, IT'S MOVING SO SLOOOOOOOWWWWWWWW. The ice age moved faster than this.
Nice to see Cassian as a stone cold killer.
Plus I thought the alien version of Luca Brasi was impressive.
I'm sure it will get better. Just not fast enough for me.
I miss the days of George Lucas when every episode started off fast, exciting and explosive.
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Well I am gonna just go with the flow on this one and try not to be too picky. I am just hoping maybe we see some Imperial vehicles and what not and I will be ok.
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Finally able to watch the second half of episode 3.
NOW THAT'S MORE LIKE IT!!!!
Explosions, sabotage, freedom fighters, hero's, heroines and heroics.
Finally starting to feel a little of the StarWars of old.
The ending was a nice touch tying together Cassian's past with his current life.
Also we see the history of Imperial secret service/security. Once again they don't know their enemy, run into a battle zone with no understanding of the terrain or environment, and they are so arrogant and pompous that their total lack of battle tactics and experience ultimately leads to there demise.
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Well I am all caught up. Sigh.
It was good to see some TIE Fighters and the one speeder bike. I will be ok once I start seeing some Imperial Troopers and vehicles and what not.
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Episode 5 is in the books.
Not much action but a lot of personality conflicts and machoism.
Felt like I was back in my classroom watching the butthead students throwing around their "toughness."
Or what they bare actually showing their "pussyness."
Gotta start having some action and soon. The character building is fine but it's time for some good old
fashioned Star Wars shootem up, blowem up and ass kickin!!!
The one thing that keeps rolling around in my noggin is this. Which one of the "good guys" is going to turn out to
be the traitor? Who will Andor end up battling for supremacy of the rebellion??
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I don't know, maybe I am never satisfied. I just feel like I am waiting for the new season of the Mandalorian.
This just kind of feels like a sitcom played out in a SW Verse.
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Finally had the chance to watch the last two episodes. Not a lot to comment on.
I hope this sophomoric, low brow, can't figure out where the show is heading feldergarb
is leading up to something spectacular. ( I have serious doubts given it's dudsney)
The episodes are enjoyable to a certain point however I just can't see what Andor
being in prison has anything to do with his rising in the ranks of the Rebellion.
Plus I see this as the big dudsney flaw with this show.
Cassian Andor is being hunted by the Galactic Empre. His image is broadcast across
the entire galaxy.
He gets arrested and gives a false name.
His supposed crimes are put into the Imperial database AS WELL AS HIS PICTURE/
IMAGE/PHOTO!
How can it possibly be that the Empire does not have their security system integrated
with all other Imperial systems yet his image has not been flagged and he has not been
extradited to the city where he is charged with committing murder?
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It seems to me they are trying to set this up for a really long haul. I will admit I am having a hard time being patient for the Mandalorian. Eh, at least its new Star Wars. It sure does make it easy for me to pass on the figures though. I just don't feel as involved.
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I feel the same. Having watched to the 7th episode, I would completely forget that this is related to Star Wars, without the occasional Imperial insignia or Mon Mothma returning her purchases.
I like the overall theme of the show and Andor is well played, but the rest doesn't feel like Lucas' Galaxy far, far away. Cannot wait for more Mando in action. Maybe with less looking after a 50 year old involved.
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You hit the nail on the head DM. As enjoyable as this show has been it's definitely not the same caliber
as Lucas' Galaxy Far Far Away.
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I have to say that I'm disappointed with Andor. Its really drags and just feels "broody." For me, Star Wars has always been an entertaining escape. I don't mind tension and some suspense, but when the build up is so slow and the suspense feels like the primary tone, that doesn't register as fun for me. Plus...virtually no aliens? I'll finish the show, but only 'cause I'm this far in and probably won't bother with season two. Both Obi-Wan and BOBF felt more like "my" Star Wars - by which I actually mean, how I felt watching the original movies as a kid. In truth, that's why I watch Star Wars - that sort of dime store action adventure with some "wow" factor. I'm, personally, not interested in "updating" the feel of Star Wars or making feel more "mature." This is why some of - though only some of - the Star Wars Visions offerings were very enjoyable for me. Just my opinion, but also not worth arguing about, it is entertainment after all.
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I like Andor. It's different. Mandalorian is a fun show, with lightsabers, shootouts with mandalorians and mandalorians fighting eachother. TBOBF (Mando Season 2.5), Had Boba fett riding a Rancor, it's fun but Andor is good story telling. I care about the characters even the bad guys. There aren't any filler episodes, no wasted dialog. Everything is building up to the climax of the story arch. I don't think every show should be like Andor, but that's what I like about having such diverse content, there's something for everyone. Personally I find memberberries offensive. They think they can replace good story telling with nostalgia. A little bit is fine but Mandalorian was just overloaded nostalgia for me. People say Andor is slow, and yeah it is, but to me Mandalorian is slow. A lot of action and nostalgia, but the story didn't really progress much. We spent a whole season and part of TBOBF getting baby yoda to the jedi and when he gets there he's like meh I don't want to be a jedi, so we're back where we started. I was actually looking forward to not seeing baby yoda anymore so we can skip the cute crap and get on with the story. But the cute crap, laser fights is the story, and that's great, but it's nice to have a change of pace with Andor.
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Hey JDeck good to see you back around. And you make some valid points.
I like how, at the end of the day, everyone feels like they can express their own opinions and don't walk over others. I guess for me, the best example I can kind of find for something else I love is Lord of the Rings. Man, the Hobbitt and the Fellowship of the Ring I just couldn't put down, but the Silmarillion I just had a hard time getting through. I guess when it comes down to it I don't want to think too hard or worry about politics or agendas or any of the other junk directors and folks sometimes try to put into shows or movies. Part of me rues the day Lucas ever sold this and allowed others to continue his stories. Man, wouldn't it be cool to see his thoughts and opinions about each of these new movies and tv series.
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George Lucas was pretty political. The battle of Endor was said to mirror the Vietnam War, which I kind of see it but it's not really the same. ROTS was hugely political. The whole movie was just one big jab at president Bush. Bush, in regards to Afghanistan said something like if you're not with us you're against us. Anakin/vader said almost the same thing. Evidently Newt gunray was supposed to be the former Republican speaker Newt Gingrich.
I heard the Andor writers had Trump in mind when writing, but honestly you can apply it to anyone. Personally I'm sick of politics in general. I don't even watch the news, I really don't care anymore, and my life is much better for it. It's always the same mess, your guy is a tyrant then when my guy gets in and does the same stuff you say he's a tyrant. How bout they all suck.
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How bout they all suck.
Now there is one statement I can support. Geesh what a mess. I don't want to talk this talk into different arenas as those generally don't end well, but folks are allowed to love Andor. I am just kinda on the its ok stage of the date so far.
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It's teacher learning/training/development/all day meetings day today at the high school.
So I took advantage of the "learning" day to finally be able to educate myself with the last
episode of this series.
Is there a bigger way to say YAAAAAWWWWWNNNNN!!
Man this show has become an insomniacs dream. Slow, lethargic, sluggish, stagnant, and tortiselike.
If your still tired after a 15 hour power nap just watch the last 3-4 episodes. Snooze city here we come.
I actually had high hopes for Andor in the beginning but it's turning into a even more soppy, boring prison
version of the kardashians.
The only reedeming part was the tribute to The Empire Strikes Back Princess Leia torture scene when Bix is being tortured.
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(https://i.imgur.com/9HBou4n.jpg)
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I will admit I am behind again. I just find better stuff to watch with my time.
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Thank God the prison arc is over with. It added absolutely nothing to the Star Wars Universe.
The only thing that was missing was a scene with one of the prisoners in his cell with Bubba.
Hopefully we will now get back to what Star Wars is and always has been about. ACTION AGAINST THE EMPIRE!!!
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Maybe I will skip that arc then.
The sad thing is this show will probably be the one that continues to get renewed while the Mandalorian and Book of Boba Fett goes on hiatus.
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Can anyone explain to me the relevance of the prison episodes and how they relate not only to the Andor series
but also to StarWars, the greatest SciFi adventure of all time?
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New "Andor" Lego set just announced!
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Hahahahaha..."repeat until death" :D
Is that supposed to be what they assemble in prison?
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You wait and see Andor will be the only new SW Series that is continued.
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As far as I know Andor was planned from scratch to be a show of 2 seasons.
Mando already got 3 ^^ besides they cannot let Andor continue forever because "Rogue One" happens soon in the plot!
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Well, the last 2 episodes were definitely HO HUM.
At least we were entertained with the battle of the revolt
against the empire by the citizens.
The imperials proved once again that they are brainless when
they need to organize a strategy to track, communicate and execute
their plan to capture a single individual.
Let's hope that season 2 gives us the material we crave.
STARWARS as it is meant to be. Not this hollywood version of crap and slough.
On a positive note. At least now we know what the convicts were manufacturing.
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I still haven't found time to watch it yet after using up Thanksgiving week watching the new Black Panther and Black Adam. I actually enjoyed Black Adam a bit more, but think I am in the minority. I just like the Rock.
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Given the lack of responses for the past few weeks I can't help but wonder if a lot of other
folks are also disenchanted with the Andor series.
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Well, nothing related to Star Wars has made me fall asleep before. Andor did and I think that says it all.
I mean the Sequels have put me on fire in raw wrath, anger and rage. That wasn't good for me either.
Andor is well made, but the content is rather meager and stretched to 12 episodes. I'll re-watch them all during the Holidays and come back with my overall opinion. The last 2 episodes are supposed to be good!
I liked the beginning of the show even though I think the brothel part wasn't necessary.
The actors play it well and the director managed it well to show the dismal time of the Empire.
But the dull tone of the show is a big part of the reason why it doesn't appeal to the general audience from what I've heard. To me it's hard to watch because nothing really happens. The story progresses in slow motion. All Quiet on the Western Front is hard to watch because it shows the senselessness and raw brutality of war in general.
I always wondered where the Empire got all the resources from. And I like how Andor shows that as I'm from a coal mining region as well. The crashed ship with the (fake?) Separatist crew is one of my favorite elements. It shows that the Republic acts with some double-standards as well and that the Galactic Senate was only a paralyzed institution literally tired of war at the end.
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Yeah, maybe I will have time to catch up on it at Christmas and give another take.
I will already say that out of all the new shows this is the one I would be fine with them not renewing. BOBF and the Mandalorian they had better keep going.
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The costumes of ANDOR impress me as well. If you're amazed by how the Galaxy of STAR WARS is dressed as much as I am, you should check out this article on STAR WARS dot com:
https://www.starwars.com/news/dressing-the-galaxy-designer-michael-wilkinson-defines-the-look-of-andor-s-costumes
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I still have to finish this.
Can you believe it!
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This show is weird. Part of me really likes the cloak and dagger stuff but I feel the pacing is off. I'm not sure why. Definitely love the clone flashbacks! ()rr
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This show is weird.
I agree 100%.
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If Andor brought any good to the franchise it's the fact that the Phase II Clone Trooper is no longer just a CGI object. His appearance in the show was enough to even give Hasbro the chance of making an all-new tooling for the character that lit the Star Wars fever in my 12-year-old brain. Don't know if KENOBI was filmed after ANDOR, but actual armors were used on screen for both shows.
Watch Adam Savage from TESTED (https://www.youtube.com/@tested) and Alea Holland from Ace Cosplay (https://www.youtube.com/c/acecosplay) review the advanced version of the Clone Trooper in Phase II armor!
"The recent Obi-Wan Kenobi and Andor shows were the first time in Star Wars that Clone Troopers were depicted in live action! The team at FBFX were responsible for the creation of the armor and costume worn on set, and Adam learns from FBFX workshop fabricator Alea Holland (and Imperial Stormtrooper cosplayer!) about how FBFX built the armor using Lucasfilm digital reference and the challenges of making it a practical costume!"
Source: video description
The First Star Wars Live Action Clone Trooper Armor! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XafNCiLgmTs)
double-click for full screen view
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Interesting. Off to share this.
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Based on what I read from many sources today it looks like season 2 isn't going to be released until 2025.