The Imperial Shipyards
Kenner / Hasbro Collecting => Legacy, Build a Droid, and Vintage Line => Topic started by: Tamer on July 25, 2009, 07:08:36 AM
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Now is this also larger scale, like the BMF or new TIEs? I may have to get one if so...
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Yepper, looks to me to be on the BMF scale. I figure it will make all the older ones obselete. The video for the hasbro panel shows some of its size and what it can do if you haven't seen it.
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That driver fig looks cool. Looks like he is wearing a variation of the saga Veers helmet.
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I sure hope they give us the one of the left of the pic. It looks like the packaged one is the "Tatooine" paint job?
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Got some floor panel shots of this one thanks to sirsteve'sguide.com to show. The articulation of the atst's legs will be incredible. I notice the extra upper leg extending joints that will aid in posability, kind of like that atat model kit that I reviewed but with more points of articulation.
I like the two shots showing the interior details. I would have liked to find some more shots of the driver fig but I am sure that some more will surface.
I believe that I had read that this is to be a walmart exclusive?
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It does look sweet, but I am a bit torn on the paint job. Why is not painted in Endor or Hoth colors? Is this supposed to be rust? It sure looks like a Sandy Tatooine paint job to me. Am I blind? Someone tell me this is just rust!
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could be rust or sand. I suppose that it could be a dirty Endor atst. We would need a pic of the description on the back of the box to know what direction they were going with this one.
You would have to open it to paint it, Shawn. 8)
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Lets face it. The company of repaint and repackage will give us the one I want!
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Found some new pics of this bad boy thanks to rebelscum.
sorry Tamer, It's for sure a Endor version.
That lump of machinery at the driver's feet perplexed me at first but now, I am almost sure that it is one of the two interchangable front cannon inserts. I will show you those, in a bit.
msrp for this one is $40
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I guess that the driver is just a repaint of the one that came with the hoth ubp, last year.
man, the more pics I see of this one, the more that I want it!
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Don't worry Tamer, I'm SURE there are several folks here who would be MORE than happy to convert this Endor version into a Hoth version...though that would require you to open it first!
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Finally flip up armor plate on the windows.. I added that to my custom ATST about a year ago.. bout time they got movie accurate :P Looks awesome, but feels like it has too much articulation now... it's a huge metal machine, not a triple jointed yoga master...
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Oh great a Walmart Exclusive, add this to the list of things I'll never see!
Wait a tic, if this thing seats two why does it only come with one driver, where are we going to get another AT-AT Driver on such short notice!?
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upcoming new carded fig ?
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Oh great a Walmart Exclusive, add this to the list of things I'll never see!
Wait a tic, if this thing seats two why does it only come with one driver, where are we going to get another AT-AT Driver on such short notice!?
I believe Hasbro did say that they were going to put this same figure on a card later this year or next year so that we had 2 to go with it (though you'd THINK they'd have it coming out at the same time...WAY TO PLAN AHEAD HASBRO!!!). Also, I'm sure I'll see plenty of these, so if you're wanting one, just let me know and I'll see if I can hook you up! And if not me, then someone here for sure!
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Wait a tic, if this thing seats two why does it only come with one driver, where are we going to get another AT-AT Driver on such short notice!?
We asked that question in our last Q and A round and they answered they were going to release another atst driver down the road. As far as At-At drivers I know where a couple are, well maybe more than a couple. I am sure some Shipyarders could help you secure yours too Fett.
I just might have to get two and brainwash, I mean bribe, one of you into giving it a Hothy type of paint job so it can have at-at drivers in it. Still, we all know that Hasbro is notorious for repainting and repacking. There will probably be a Hoth one down the road as another store exclusive for fifty bucks or so. As for the articulation I can sure see what you are saying StenHunter. I am reminded of the knobby knees syndrome that caused one of em to crash on Endor cause the legs wouldn't articulate much. Still, I don't know if there is such a thing as too much articulation. I am, however, having issues with the size of the feet on this thing. I need to watch the movies again to see if they are more movie accurate, but did anyone notice the comparison shots of the old one by the new one? It looks like the old one's feet are bigger than the new one. I am also wondering about the toe accuracy too. Do movie versions only have the one toe?
Overall though, I am very excited for this addition and only really had hoped for an TESB theme, but I can live with the ROTJ design. The replaceable cannons is just an awesome feature. I love how the main turret is really movie accurate down to the guard rails on top and the windows that fold down. It will definitely be one of my few Hasbro purchases this year.
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Personally, I'd MUCH rather pay the $40 for one now and customize it to my liking than wait and pay more than that for a similar, though crappy version of what you wanted to begin with!
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Personally, I'd MUCH rather pay the $40 for one now and customize it to my liking than wait and pay more than that for a similar, though crappy version of what you wanted to begin with!
Don't forget, there is the packaging and box design and insert that is part of the minty collector in me too. If they did come out with an ESB themed one I would probably get it. All that being said, I probably will pick up and extra one to open and see if I can get one of the gang here to do her up snow theme for me.
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Tamer, , I would be more than happy to give you any custom hoth look you want on this beast when it comes out. Just shoot me a line.
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Tamer, , I would be more than happy to give you any custom hoth look you want on this beast when it comes out. Just shoot me a line.
I appreciate the offer, I just might take you up on it!
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The new AT-ST is killer. Superb!! Here are some differences I noticed between the 2 AT-ST versions. I can say the new one is more accurate. I don't have the old or new Hasbro AT-ST - the old one I've seen in person at a good friend, and the new one I hope to get one day.
The old one was never too accurate alas: legs too short, weapons different from the ones in the movie (frontal cannons should be pairs and on same level, on the left should be a concussion launcher and on right a set of rockets and cannon) - the new one got all these right. The new Hasbro has the legs ok but still needs the cutter toe thing in front - the old one had it better made. And the new one is missing the supports on the back of the legs that look like a lever.
Differences circled in red:
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Wait a tic, if this thing seats two why does it only come with one driver, where are we going to get another AT-AT Driver on such short notice!?
We asked that question in our last Q and A round and they answered they were going to release another atst driver down the road. As far as At-At drivers I know where a couple are, well maybe more than a couple. I am sure some Shipyarders could help you secure yours too Fett.
That was suppose to be AT-ST Driver on short notice I was just typing too fast, I have plenty AT-AT Drivers. I hope they will be releasing a new SA AT-ST Driver as opposed to recarding that Saga version! I mean that new Scanning Tech is the perfect base for several Imperials.
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I just read in Yakface that this has been seen in the UK in, of all places, a TRU?
here is the link (http://www.yakfaceforums.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=4259&start=60#p72378)
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Am I just wrong, or was this supposed to be a wal-mart exclusive? Hmm...out in the UK? Surely it ought to be hitting a few stores here then! I think it is time to start doing a store run or two on the weekends for me now!
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will keep an eye out here... :D
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That thing looks awesome.
Might have to do some checking around too.
Wont be able to hit a TRU until next Friday, but will check all the other stores.
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I need 1 or 2 depending on price point, Guess I gotta start looking for it
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I still believe it is supposed to be $40 here. I sure didn't expect it to be showing up this early.
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To me $40 is fair, I can do that, I was just hopping it wouldn't be at the new $64 mark they like for some of the larger items
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Yes, I am so excited about this vehicle I plan on getting a few of these to say the least, my goal is at least 8 that would give me 2 squads of AT-ST's as its 4 vehicles per squad.
I am just wondering when hasbro will decide to make a new AT-ST Driver, they have put off making a good version of this figure, like a lot of other figures they could make for army builders and collectors alike seems all they give us os the excuse that kids will not buy them what a croc how about the collectors who go to work and spend there hard earned money kids change there minds quick its the older collectors that know what they want.
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I see Brians Toys has these up for "pre-order" for the low low price of $99.99 ::) $99.99 how can this clown still be in business. Plus he has other so called pre orders for figures currently on the pegs for $14.99.
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in business the same way the over priced vet in our town is in business, prestige, :(
I'm gonna pass on this thing, wait for a hoth version to go with teh ATAT, next year is a big ESB year, right?
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Yep!
... unless you're Hasbro ...
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found the new AT-ST at my local online store Sagacentral
here is the link
http://www.sagacentral.com.au/Content_Common/pr-New-Arrivals_Star-Wars-Exclusive-AT-ST.seo
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maybe I'll pick one up if I see it. maybe.
it dwarfs the original!
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I will get at least one and then perhaps another to get the Hothy treatment and more movie accuarate piecies.
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That saga central one is a bit steep considering that in the us, we should be able to pick one up for less than half that price.
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I will get at least one and then perhaps another to get the Hothy treatment and more movie accuarate piecies.
MORE movie accurate? How far off is the new one?
The old one was all wrong on most the movie prop version but I'm not sure what to look for on that new AT-ST that's still off.
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We need some comparrison pics. Serge, didn't you post some?
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The AT-ST is supposed to be $39.99 when it comes out I want to know why the latest waves of figs comic packs and vehicles are nowere to be found.
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I too want to know this, Lee. Are they waiting for the Christmas rush or something? We should have new figures on the shelf by now.
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I do not know they are 2 almost 3 waves behind with legacy and comic packs, not to mention the AT-ST and the Tie interceptor with its limited sightings I think there is more to it than just christmas rush
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I too want to know this, Lee. Are they waiting for the Christmas rush or something? We should have new figures on the shelf by now.
distribution of the carded figures is horrible, it seems like its a mess everywhere.
I'm blaming that damnable ubiquitous Saga Legends subline from screwing the Legacy collection and the Clone Wars.
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That saga central one is a bit steep considering that in the us, we should be able to pick one up for less than half that price.
i know what you mean but thats what we pay regardless mate even if toys r us had them they would be the same price or even higher.
for example the CW ARC-170 and the CW Gunship LL came out they were priced at $129.99!! i bet even the you guys would pay a 3rd less then that.
our figures are the same $17.99 is normal price and hardly EVER!! Go on clearance, and you guys could buy almost if not 3 figures for the same price...
we just have to deal with it its all we can do, even to import ships from the states is pricey, like im looking for the tx-130 tank or what ever its called put it would cost me 35 U.S for the vehicle and 30 U.S for shipping ( $70/$80 AUSD and thats before customs take there cut!!). or i can get it at Saga central for $59 plus $8 shipping and it would be at my door the next day... unfortunately >:( i missed out on getting the from him!!!!
i'll shut up now lol i could keep going on how we Aussies get ripped of by hasbro and retailers...
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I know about your hikes, Trev. I'm afraid it's the shipping cost that makes it alot higher for one thing.
I usually take steps to counter the customs cost on all of my overseas shipments. shipping bigger stuff to Australia is never cheap, though.
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I will get at least one and then perhaps another to get the Hothy treatment and more movie accuarate piecies.
MORE movie accurate? How far off is the new one?
The old one was all wrong on most the movie prop version but I'm not sure what to look for on that new AT-ST that's still off.
I am thinking there is a back leg portion missing and something about the toes doesn't look right to me either.
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You would be right tamer, but I am not complaining all that much I am glad it fits 2 figures now, although on a side note there were 2 diffrent versions of the AT-ST the ones on hoth were diffrent than the ones on Endor so maybe this is that version as reference to the AT-ST is very slim I have some pics from Official Pix with the AT-ST but nothing with enough detail to say one way or the other. I just wish I could find this thing Hasbro is pushing collectors to far with there stonewalling and getting around answering questions with riddles.
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You would be right tamer, but I am not complaining all that much I am glad it fits 2 figures now, although on a side note there were 2 diffrent versions of the AT-ST the ones on hoth were diffrent than the ones on Endor
how different? I didn't realize the Hoth version was any different from the Endor versions.
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There were slight difference's in the models form movie to movie, I am trying to find good reference pics but they are all from the side and at a distance so detail begins to mesh together.
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Anybody know if this has been found at retail in the states yet?
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haven't seen hide nor hair of this thing, I am really wondering if Hasbro knows what a release schedule really is.
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down here in the squalor of the south, we have everything in droves, except the atst, lol.
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There's been so many dates missed, you gotta wonder. Was the AT-ST actually supposed to be released before November? I seem to remember the Dewback actually being targeted for a November release; but the AT-ST's target date escapes me.
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here you go Oct 1st but I have given up Hasbro has really let me down this year
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our hasbro rep says it hasn't left the factory yet. . .but she might be lying, I tried hooking her up with a buddy of mine, even though she's older and married.
oh, more to the story. . .I also didn't tell him she was a rep, just that she was hanging out in the toys and I knew her. . he thought it was a set up and starting asking all these odd questions, odd to ask a hasbro rep.
Well, actually, thats just what he said/she said, they could have never met for all I know.. but she hates me.
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LOL Simon. rotflmao to the 100th power.
I love your creativitiy in dealing with the at-st release date situation. Frankly, if one of you asks it in the hasbro thread I will glad to ask Hasbro this round why they are so off on thier street dates this time. I add that with the idea that they do us a service by allowing us to ask questions so please when we are asking some defensive type questions lets phrase them as positively as we can. I really do think this question thing is what is getting us our wants like the atte they said for years they weren't gonna produce.
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I just heard the Dewback was actually spotted at a brick and mortar Walmart here in the STates. (Sandtroopers I think, had a blurb about this) So that is encouraging.
I haven't heard squat about the AT-ST but it can't be too much longer. Christmas is less than 8 weeks away now!
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I'll bet we see it in November. what with the sales and specials going on at TRU, they will want to do something to compete.
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To be honest, I have never seen Hasbro miss a street release date this bad in my recent memory. Course my memory ain't what she used to be and I have been known to err, "from time to time."
Anyone else remember a release date for Hasbro this bad?
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I dont not this much stuff, they are way behind and have no reason as to why makes no sense to me.
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Anyone else remember a release date for Hasbro this bad?
I've really only started paying attention to street dates within the last few years; but either way, I'm in agreement that it doesn't seem like Hasbro has been this bad with the dates in the past.
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O K I received my extra AT-ST in the mail today so I opened one up.
First impressions are, This thing was over hyped and is NOT impressive to me at all.
Why,
The Legs, Poor design that to me isn;t accurate, the feet pads are way undersized, infact the old AT-ST had a larger footprint. Also what's with teh articulation to the legs, why would I want the legs to be able to hinge and swing OUTWARD, plain old stupid. The Cockpit looks good but it looks way out of proportion to the rest of the vehicle, the torso if you will call it is very small compaired to the head, the "neck post" is a terrible idea and design,
All in all I am VERY dissapointed in this and am really thinking about taking my boxed one back to the store, It's not worth the 45 smackers, To me and this is only my opinion, I prefer the older design, while smaller to me it is more to scale with itself than this monstrosity. This thing SUCKS
Sarge gives it the big thumbs down, not an official review but take it for what it is.
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Just for grins, here is a shot of my custom next to the new version, If you fix the legs on the old one it stands just as tall as the new one out of the box, and from a distance looks more proportioned.
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full review by me here: http://www.imperialshipyards.net/SMF/index.php?topic=1424.msg31109#new
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Sarge, what is your opinion on how hard it would be to fix the legs and feet on this? Too difficult or not worth the time?
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I think it could be done, but it would be a good amount of work, I will be experimenting with mine hopefully this weekend
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I will be eager to see what you come up with and see if you do fix yours how hard it will be to replicate. I would sure love to get another one of these to make accurate and Hothize up.
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pass for now, even though NFC's review is pretty much a love letter.
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pass for now, even though NFC's review is pretty much a love letter.
I was just surprised by how much coole it actually is in hand than I expected. I knew it would be an improvement but I really only picked it up because the push button walking gimmick on the old one drives me nuts. And then I happened to be plesantly surprised by how different the new one was.
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I was thinking about replacing the foot pads with the Endor foot pads whenever I find one. I was also thinking about adding weights to the feet and maybe some styrene to the legs. Then a total repaint.
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I really like the new design, I have no need for the legs to go outward but if you watch in ROTJ when the walker is stepping on the logs the legs do go outward I am guessing this was an added feature to recreate that seen with the logs. reguardless of the new flaws it is a vast improvement over the old walker,
1- No annoying push button
2- It stands up Straight
3- Bigger cockpit
4- Added flip up shutters over the Windows
5- Accurate guns
6- no goofy top blaster
While it is not to say movie accurate it is a far better version than the old one, I prefer this version for its size when placed in my troop columns I get a sense that it is a real vehicle and the Empire strikes back AT-S is diffrent than the ROTJ version. But thats my opinion and I do not want to sway anyone pick one up for yourself and see what you think if you do not like it more for me lol.
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Thanks Wayne !! ;D
I didn't really want to come up with the loot for one and now I don't hafta feel i'm miss'n out. :D
My wallet is light enough since I had to buy this new Computer... :P
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Hey Rodger good to see you and don't forget all the decent reviews this thing is getting from our folks. I am in the middle, I like the newer bigger more accurate size and I feel the legs and feet just need work. Ofcourse the folks here can do that work. I am anxious to see one of em try it to see what they can actually do with it. No getting out of it that easy Rodge! It has some decent merits. Sarge is like me, he gets ticked when Hasbro gives us a new design, but misses just a few key things for an item that could be totally over the top. I need to go get this review and NFC's on the fp now that I think about it.
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Mine isn't a review, It's just me unhappy with this offering, others will love it others will hate it, I say take a good look for yourself once you see it on the shelf or in some of the great shots already taken on here and then decide. I am rarley very happy with Hasbro as I really feel they shortcut way to many items that could easily be improved.
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Wayne, that is my take on Hasbro too for the most part. Kind of like me being ticked with the new dewback saddle that didn't take into account the fact that a regular figure needed to be able to ride on it. Its just the small things they miss that they just can't explain away with the cost of retooling like they always like to use.
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I briefly look at one last weekend. Now i need to buy one but not for me. I've been helping out one of the guys behind Collectors - Database (German Language site).
He's had tons of stuff sent to my house plus i've been racking up lotsa purchases localy for him. The At-St just hit my list of his wants. I'm starting to pack the HUGE box of toys to send to Vienna Austria. There will be close to $1000 worth of toys and collectables heading out soon.
Like sending of f one of your kids... :(
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crikey, that's a lot of stuff. What do you get out of this deal?
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man, helping out our European brothers is thanks enough if you ask me, :)
I buy for a couple friends across the pond, of course, they let me ship first, so I get to see the toys, which is a bonus, :)
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Went back at Walmart on luch for a fig for Pat and they loaded up a full end display with these, never saw the local Wallys carry so many of 1 exclusive before, there had to be 25-30 of these on the display with more cases on the restock cart.
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They make us wait for months longer than we need to and now they are glutting the shelves? Priceless Hasbro, Priceless! Oh well, I will get some of these on clearance after xmas!
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No matter how much I may want one of these, that is the only way I will be getting thanks to the $45 pricetag.
Still have not seen one.... so that would tell me they are due here soon.
Hope they are still around near or shortly after Xmas and on sale.
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They are bigger, but not 43 dollars bigger imo. I got one because I am a walker nut, but if these are coming out in those quantities we will see em after xmas.
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I agree I love the new AT-ST and Dewback as well but the price is insane
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Sarge, what is your opinion on how hard it would be to fix the legs and feet on this? Too difficult or not worth the time?
I started, I posted pics in my customs area, but now I know it can be done with a little work.
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I do like the Foot-swap...
Now it needs dirty feet too...
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One the custom work is done, a repaint is indeed in order.
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Not as big of a difference as I thought but I do like the bigger foot on it. Thanks for the pics, Wayne.
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Not as big of a difference as I thought but I do like the bigger foot on it. Thanks for the pics, Wayne.
That's kind of what I was thinking. I think more than anything, it's the larger toes that make the most impact. Regardless, the larger feet/toes do look better.
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small details, but usually those make the differnce, to my eye it is just better proportioned this way, I will finish it up tomorrow most likely
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That looks a lot better! Glad to see it can be done without too much work. Did this get on the fp? I need to go see whats up with it. Nice work Sarge.
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Thanks Shawn, It's not a 5 minute fix but it isn't to bad, just unscrew the old feet, and since the older AT-ST's feet mount differntly you need to cut and slot the old feet for the new mount, No differnt than kids mounting 22 inch rims on an old cutlass ;)
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Thanks Shawn, It's not a 5 minute fix but it isn't to bad, just unscrew the old feet, and since the older AT-ST's feet mount differntly you need to cut and slot the old feet for the new mount, No differnt than kids mounting 22 inch rims on an old cutlass ;)
Well I think it looks a lot better with those slightly larger feet. I bet it supports the weight better too.
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I never new that the AT-ST had two seats. I meant, in the movies it did but, i never knew the action figure one did.
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HAY! I've seen this guy! Only like $50 at wal-mart! ;D
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I never new that the AT-ST had two seats. I meant, in the movies it did but, i never knew the action figure one did.
This is a brand new one just released and it much bigger than our old one, but has some leg and feet issues as you can see by this thread.
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still pass, but 15 bucks on clearance would be acceptable.
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I am getting this for Christmas. I almost fainted when I saw this at Wal-Mart. Not that many US exclusives make it to Canada. This year we got a lot but they are way overpriced.
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This year we got a lot but they are way overpriced.
Its not just you, they are over priced to begin with, :(
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These are overpriced, I'll give you that but what shocked me, is locally we had roughly 25-30 of these when they came out, so I was hoping for clearance prices, but 2-3 weeks prior to Christmas they were all gone, That rarely happens here, even the Wally gunship lasted to clearance.
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Last I checked my local Walmart still had a ton of these full price. I'm not so sure it's the high price but where they are located is the reason there are so many of them here--end cap that faces the back of the store and three aisles down from the Star Wars section.
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well... I had to break down and finally get one of these. Definately worth it. I love the look and feel of this thing. It is rather wobbly though, and I'm interesting in maybe doing the feet swap. I want to customize this thing to make it more screen accurate though...