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Title: NFL 2010
Post by: Reconsgt on March 06, 2010, 06:28:11 AM
With free agency upon us and the draft comming soon, we can start discussing the new season,

Tamer,  say it ain't so, Big Ben is being investigated for sexual assult?  Didn't he have similar issues last season? This one stems from a Georgia Nightclub,  don;t know much, just caught a quick blurb on the news.

The Bears landed some decent free agents, the biggest was Julius Peppers, though with the dough he's getting can they sign many others?

The Packers once again were fairly quiet thus far and will probably remain so, it seems the GM Thompson, never really gets agressive with this market, so that can be frustrating seeing some great players go elsewhere,


Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Tamer on March 06, 2010, 08:16:52 AM
It has been some time since I have gotten any NFL news and I watched a bit this morning while I was working on everyone's feedback. I did hear the allegations about Ben again. It sounds like he may have been targeted and the police didn't even do anything with it, but I guess the NFL is still investigating. I don't know why you would put yourself out there to even give potential moneygrubbers the chance to do that! I can remember when the Redskins were doing thier Summer training at the college I was going too and there were always stories of girls alleging misconduct with the players.  Still, I think he is an idiot for even going to those types of places.

I did also see some of the free agent deals and think the Cardinals, Jets, and Panthers better hope for a pot of gold as they just let a ton of decent players go. It looks like Chicago is making some good deals though. I even saw the Browns were smart enough to resign Cribbs. I was hoping he would be gone from the AFC North.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Phatty on March 06, 2010, 01:51:06 PM
I gotta say, while I'm impressed with the moves the Bears made yesterday, I am still a bit concerned with the team as a whole.  I still think Forte could be a fantastic back for them.  Sophomore slump being what it can be, he had no O-Line to open a hole for him at all.  The biggest failing of the Bears has been and looks to continue to be their O-Line, which they haven't even attempted to clean up yet.  Peppers will put that bite back in their D, and Taylor will be good for a 2-Tier back system.  Not sure about Manamaulena as a blocking TE though.  Olsen is pretty decent, but just needs to soften those hands a bit.  And once again, where are the WRs at?  Hester is NOT a premier WR.  Guess time will tell with them though.

The thing about Big Ben, to me, is that I actually believe it.  I really do.  His cockiness may have gotten the best of him.  Arrogance can be your worst enemy.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Tamer on March 06, 2010, 02:01:30 PM
Pat, who knows. I have a feeling we will find out all the dirty things before it is over. Great, just what my Steelers need, another ordeal with Ben. I will be honest, it wouldn't hurt my feelings for the Steelers to get somoene who knew how to handle themselves off the field.  We had better draft one I think. Batch hasn't stayed healthy for years.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Reconsgt on March 06, 2010, 02:26:39 PM
From what I read the woman was taken to the hospital, treated and released, I am sure evidence was gathered as well so we'll see.  Shame that be it true or false, it brings bad PR to the league and teams involved.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: commanderCharlie on April 15, 2010, 07:47:51 PM
Hey I have season tickets to the Giants going to go see the new stadium this weekend :D Even though I love giants football I have no fate in them. I mean manning is way to young they are teaching jacobs to run outside and we have no wide outs. Now that mcnabb is a redskin lets hope for second place.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Tamer on April 16, 2010, 05:44:31 PM
That is gonna be an interesting division for sure. I bet ole McNabb is gonna be working overtime this year.

It looks like my Steelers are cleaning house, I just hope they do the same with Ben. I am tired of him.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: commanderCharlie on April 16, 2010, 05:51:25 PM
yeah sounds like ben alright.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Mandalore the skepsis on April 17, 2010, 11:18:02 AM
That is gonna be an interesting division for sure. I bet ole McNabb is gonna be working overtime this year.

It looks like my Steelers are cleaning house, I just hope they do the same with Ben. I am tired of him.

I'm so glad that MCnabb is gone.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Tamer on April 18, 2010, 04:31:08 PM
It is gonna be an interesting year in the NFL thats for sure.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Reconsgt on April 18, 2010, 05:34:08 PM
I am just excited thatthe draft is nearly here, not the Thompson will blow us Packer fans away but I love draft day
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: commanderCharlie on April 24, 2010, 10:39:07 AM
 the G-en came up with the cool d end that does backflips :)
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Tamer on April 24, 2010, 12:39:46 PM
I need to see who my Steelers drafted besides a C. I thought they would probably go WR first round or maybe even QB since they still have Ben.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Phatty on April 24, 2010, 01:55:32 PM
They probably SHOULD have gone QB since they're looking to dump Big Ben.  I have to agree with the Rooney's: He is showing no signs of growing up, and they demand respect and professionalism from their players.  It IS a privilege to play professional sports, NOT a right.

Still, I was surprised to see Clausen and McCoy went so late in the draft.  I'd be seriously concerned with Bradford, since he ended 2 seasons with shoulder injuries.  But then again, who am I?
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Mandalore the skepsis on April 30, 2010, 09:59:56 AM
Boy my eagles did a bang up job of, as usual, DOING FREAKING NOTHING IN THE DRAFT
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Tamer on April 30, 2010, 05:19:07 PM
Personally, I think Denver is gonna show they picked the best QB in the draft. I just like the presence 'Teebow has. I think he is gonna do great. I wish he had a few more recievers and a more precise running game, but he isn't in the worst starting line up. If McDaniels can get over the I am the boss syndrome I think he can probably roll with things.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: commanderCharlie on April 30, 2010, 05:30:48 PM
are you joking teebow is going to suck.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Mandalore the skepsis on April 30, 2010, 06:51:19 PM
Personally I agree with Tamer....I think Tebow is going to be great.

He is a better athlete over all compare to the other qbs in the draft, including sam assford.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Tamer on May 01, 2010, 04:35:22 AM
are you joking teebow is going to suck.


I could be wrong, but the kid sure would be welcome on my team. I was so hoping Tomlin and the Rooneys would give this kid a shot at replacing Ben.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Phatty on May 01, 2010, 08:53:13 AM
Tebow is going to go one of two ways: Up or Down.  I think he has a lot of raw talent, not to mention strength and smarts. He has already adapted his throwing style in a very short amount of time, very effectively since working with Gruden.  I see him taking the running QB role that was practically invented by Vick and amping it up, shaping it into a serious force to deal with, and I also see him throwing lasers to his WRs out there.  He'll be working with Josh McDaniels out there in Denver, so I see good things.  However, I can also see him fading into obscurity if he has a couple of bad games, as the NFL is all about image, and if he looks like he'll begin to do poorly, I see them benching him.  Time will tell, I guess!
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Mandalore the skepsis on May 02, 2010, 08:18:41 PM
Tebow is going to go one of two ways: Up or Down.  I think he has a lot of raw talent, not to mention strength and smarts. He has already adapted his throwing style in a very short amount of time, very effectively since working with Gruden.  I see him taking the running QB role that was practically invented by Vick

No offense bro....

But a lot of people forget a certain qb that really started the running qb thingie....he used to play in philly and go by the number 12
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/1989/0911_large.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Phatty on May 03, 2010, 06:15:52 AM
LOL!  True, very true.  However, while Cunningham started it, Vick gave it muscle and made it a viable option in games.  Vince Young tried to do similar, but he's been a flop for the most part.  Tebow, at least in college, provided a question few teams could answer.  We'll see how he translates into the NFL. 

Now, of the other big name QBs from this year's draft: Claussen to Carolina...could be good for him.  I don't know who their current QB is, I've never heard of him.  I never really thought Claussen was that great in college, either, since their record during his time there was poor.  I guess he was a pretty highly regarded QB though.  Guess we'll see...

Bradford, #1 overall to St. Louis.  I gotta say, I was never all that impressed with Bradford, and with 2 season ending injuries to his shoulder, will the surgery he had really make him durable enough in the NFL?  Injuries happen to everyone, and if you can overcome it, it's nothing but a nuisance.  However, both of those hits that took him out weren't all that bad, and will be MUCH worse in the NFL. 

Colt McCoy to the Browns.  Well, his career is over.  Seriously, there is no hope in the Browns.  Too bad for McCoy, he could've done probably the best in his class.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Mandalore the skepsis on May 03, 2010, 07:46:13 PM
But see Cunningham not being the starter of that running qb trend is Buddy Ryan wanted him not to run as much as throw. He had 996 yards(not sure of actual yards) one season, and Ryan stopped him from being the first 1000 yard qb.

So if Cunningham would have been that, perhaps some would give him some more respect. I mean damn he was the qb of the greatest offensive team ever.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Tamer on September 12, 2010, 05:07:46 PM
I can't believe no one has lit this thread up yet. What can I say what a day!

My Steelers manage to win without Ben. Mendenhall looked ok!  Just three more. Then the womanizer comes back. Somehow I am feeling I would rather keep loosing with a rookie backup rather than see Ben come back. Oh well, a win is a win.

Did NE kills the Bengals or what! Almost makes me wish I had drafted Brady again he is gonna put up some major numbers again it looks like. How bout that Welker! Torn ACL no problem!

Then onto the GB / Philly game. Wow, was that a close game or what. The Packers dominated only to have daggone Vick bring em back to almost win! Still the Packers got it done. I sure hope Rodgers doesn't start throwing interceptions though.

Now I get to wait on Dallas and the Redskins. I think ole Carrol got a win today too. I really though San Fran would come out swinging too. And Bradford looked ok too. Maybe the Rams are gonna win a couple this year.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Mandalore the skepsis on September 16, 2010, 07:13:09 PM
With Vick playing, the eagles have a chance at the playoffs.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Tamer on September 17, 2010, 02:33:58 AM
I am kinda torn on the Vick thing. I know everyone deserves a second chance, but then the whole reason he was in jail. He paid his time, but I am not sure he really learned anything from it (hence the shooting after his bday party last summer). Still, I guess the NFL didn't find any fault there or surely he wouldn't be playing.

I wonder how in the heck my Steelers are gonna stop Kris Johnson this weekend. He only got 60 some yards the last time they played, but that was with Kerry Collins not cry baby. It aslo looks like Vincent Jackson is gonna go somewhere if the SD owner lets him. I sure wouldn't I don't think. Oh well, gotta wait till Sunday to see how this all plays out.

Wayne, I am looking for you Packers to just go nuts playing Buffalo this weekend.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Mandalore the skepsis on September 17, 2010, 07:03:38 PM
I am kinda torn on the Vick thing. I know everyone deserves a second chance, but then the whole reason he was in jail. He paid his time, but I am not sure he really learned anything from it (hence the shooting after his bday party last summer). Still, I guess the NFL didn't find any fault there or surely he wouldn't be playing.

I wonder how in the heck my Steelers are gonna stop Kris Johnson this weekend. He only got 60 some yards the last time they played, but that was with Kerry Collins not cry baby. It aslo looks like Vincent Jackson is gonna go somewhere if the SD owner lets him. I sure wouldn't I don't think. Oh well, gotta wait till Sunday to see how this all plays out.

Wayne, I am looking for you Packers to just go nuts playing Buffalo this weekend.

I've given up on worrying about these "professionals" and their off the field lives. The vast majority of these professionals are pretty much scum imho. Some are very good, very nice people, but some just ruin it for all of them.

Vick is a scum bag imho, and will always be one for what he did too those dogs.

But then again, others have done worse...I mean some have murdered and been accused of the same and got off either completely free or without anything more than a slap on the wrist.

If we picked through every team and found all the bad....and in our hearts and minds, most of us would hate everyone of our home teams.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Tamer on September 17, 2010, 07:10:30 PM
Daggone good points! I can't disagree with any of em.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Mandalore the skepsis on September 18, 2010, 07:54:06 PM
I honestly believe this football season may be the most lack luster in years.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Phatty on September 19, 2010, 06:50:24 AM
I feel I need to weigh in here on the whole Vick thing, and while it's my view of the facts, it still bothers me how pious and hypocritical people are.  And no, I'm absolutely NOT taking a shot at anyone here, honest!

People want Vick hung in the Town Square for all to spit on his dead body, yet very few actually spent the time to listen and read the actual reports on what happened.  While he is absolutely not without blame, most people's views on him are skewed because they just didn't listen.  Vick never actually participated in any dog fighting.  His crime was owning the property it was done on, and knowing about it but not stopping it.  Again, not without blame, but that is a very major point that most people never knew about.  I'm not going to try to make excuses for him, because it's not my place to.  However, the main culprit, who got away with it scott free entirely, was his cousin.  Family bonds being what they are, I can kind of see why Vick took the fall for his cousin.  Furthermore, this took place during a time when all of a sudden, the lawyers and courts were going after any and all celebrities to make a name for themselves.  See, it worked out wonderfully for the lawyers during the O.J. trial, and since then, lawyers and judges have been trying to duplicate that fame and success.  Hell, just last week, "Snooki" or whatever her name is from Jersey Shore was arrested and fined for being topless on a beach in Jersey, that according to locals, happens all the time, and there were MANY others doing the same at that exact same time she was arrested.  Why was she arrested?  Because she's hot news.  Why was Vick arrested and prosecuted and not his cousin?  Because his cousin isn't news.  Then take his Birthday party last year.  Vick's wife threw the party, his cousin showed up and started acting like the thug he is and fired off his gun, so instead of trying to make a bad situation worse, he got in his car with his wife and bodyguard and left his own party and home, yet they want to once again flay him alive.

The hypocritical part of all this is this:  Let's take a look at Ray Lewis.  Does anyone out there remember when he was on trial for MURDER?  Where he got off on a techincality?  The Prosecution had enough evidence to put him away, and a small techincal error freed him, and now he's loved and respected in the NFL because he's a hard hitter.  SO, according to the public opinion, dogs are more highly regarded and valued than humans.  And don't get me wrong, I'm a dog lover! 

Vick stood up and acted like a man.  He did have implicit guilt in the whole thing and took his medicine.  He served his time, and I do believe his full time, not the usual BS they hand out to celebs.  He paid the price of his family loyalty, and now he's back.  And like Mandalore the Skepsis said, I think he gives Philly a playoff shot WAY over that Kolb piece of crap.  Hell, did you see the numbers?  -3 Passing yards by Kolb in the first half.  Vick brought them back from an 18 point deficit to within one touchdown in one half of play.  Not bad.

I loved Vick when he was with Atlanta, and took it kinda hard when he got into his mess.  Even knowing the fact, I was still disappointed and glad I didn't buy that Vick jersey I had in my shopping cart.  But I also believe in second chances, for the most part.  Murderers and child molesters?  Not so much.  But if Ray Lewis can play happily in the NFL in all his glory, why can't we let Vick have his second chance and cheer him on to do great?

Sorry for my tirade.  I honestly have no idea why this topic gets to me so much!
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Phatty on September 19, 2010, 06:55:05 AM
I honestly believe this football season may be the most lack luster in years.

I hate to admit it, but I think you're right.  With the looming threat of a lockout coming up, I think players are all too focused on the coming future.  I just hope people pay attention and learn what a lockout is over a strike, and put the blame on the right people.  The owners want a BILLION dollars back in cash from the players, want the players themselves to pay for practice facilities, and want the players to pay for their own travel to away games.  Jerry Jones spent a billion dollars on his monstrosity of a stadium, and wants money BACK?  The good part of this is, so far, that teams are voting on disbarring the Union.  Unions are not permitted under law to take any legal action against the owners directly.  By disbarring their Union, which is not getting rid of them entirely, it frees the players up so that they can individually sue the owners of the NFL for locking them out.  It puts the power back into the players hands and levels the playing field.  This is why I hate professional sports.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Clonehead on September 19, 2010, 07:29:05 AM
Did you see those two rookies that the Chiefs had playing last week. Man, those dudes were hot. Defense looked good and the running game was greatly improved. I just don't know about cassel though. He tends to hang onto the ball to long.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Tamer on September 19, 2010, 11:57:23 AM
I actually drafted a KC player this year, Dwayne Bowe. I have him on the bench this week, but think I am gonna regret that. Looks like Dennis Dixon is now out and the third QB Batch is in. Daggone its gonna be a long season.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Mandalore the skepsis on September 19, 2010, 10:03:49 PM
I feel I need to weigh in here on the whole Vick thing, and while it's my view of the facts, it still bothers me how pious and hypocritical people are.  And no, I'm absolutely NOT taking a shot at anyone here, honest!

People want Vick hung in the Town Square for all to spit on his dead body, yet very few actually spent the time to listen and read the actual reports on what happened.  While he is absolutely not without blame, most people's views on him are skewed because they just didn't listen.  Vick never actually participated in any dog fighting.  His crime was owning the property it was done on, and knowing about it but not stopping it.  Again, not without blame, but that is a very major point that most people never knew about.  I'm not going to try to make excuses for him, because it's not my place to.  However, the main culprit, who got away with it scott free entirely, was his cousin.  Family bonds being what they are, I can kind of see why Vick took the fall for his cousin.  Furthermore, this took place during a time when all of a sudden, the lawyers and courts were going after any and all celebrities to make a name for themselves.  See, it worked out wonderfully for the lawyers during the O.J. trial, and since then, lawyers and judges have been trying to duplicate that fame and success.  Hell, just last week, "Snooki" or whatever her name is from Jersey Shore was arrested and fined for being topless on a beach in Jersey, that according to locals, happens all the time, and there were MANY others doing the same at that exact same time she was arrested.  Why was she arrested?  Because she's hot news.  Why was Vick arrested and prosecuted and not his cousin?  Because his cousin isn't news.  Then take his Birthday party last year.  Vick's wife threw the party, his cousin showed up and started acting like the thug he is and fired off his gun, so instead of trying to make a bad situation worse, he got in his car with his wife and bodyguard and left his own party and home, yet they want to once again flay him alive.

The hypocritical part of all this is this:  Let's take a look at Ray Lewis.  Does anyone out there remember when he was on trial for MURDER?  Where he got off on a techincality?  The Prosecution had enough evidence to put him away, and a small techincal error freed him, and now he's loved and respected in the NFL because he's a hard hitter.  SO, according to the public opinion, dogs are more highly regarded and valued than humans.  And don't get me wrong, I'm a dog lover! 

Vick stood up and acted like a man.  He did have implicit guilt in the whole thing and took his medicine.  He served his time, and I do believe his full time, not the usual BS they hand out to celebs.  He paid the price of his family loyalty, and now he's back.  And like Mandalore the Skepsis said, I think he gives Philly a playoff shot WAY over that Kolb piece of crap.  Hell, did you see the numbers?  -3 Passing yards by Kolb in the first half.  Vick brought them back from an 18 point deficit to within one touchdown in one half of play.  Not bad.

I loved Vick when he was with Atlanta, and took it kinda hard when he got into his mess.  Even knowing the fact, I was still disappointed and glad I didn't buy that Vick jersey I had in my shopping cart.  But I also believe in second chances, for the most part.  Murderers and child molesters?  Not so much.  But if Ray Lewis can play happily in the NFL in all his glory, why can't we let Vick have his second chance and cheer him on to do great?

Sorry for my tirade.  I honestly have no idea why this topic gets to me so much!

No worries P....pretty much embodied what I was talking about. The murder I was talking about was Lewis and Stallworth.
What Vick did, was and is horrible, but I'm sure he isn't the only one who did what he did. But it doesn't make it right at all and in fact I believe he got what he deserved.

Lewis got off on a technicality, which only proves how flawed our gov and law services are.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Phatty on September 20, 2010, 05:34:56 AM
Agreed.  I'm also not saying Vick shouldn't have gotten in trouble, but the fact is he served his time and is now a free man, just like any other.  And whether Philly or Reid want to admit it, he's their best shot at winning.  Kolb's a joke!

On other notes, my Bears played very well yesterday.  Besides the fact that I can't STAND Dallas (America's team my ass!), it shows that the Bears are definitely a better team than last year so far...

The Manning Bowl was kinda lopsided, eh?  Peyton, as usual, decided that outcome from the start, and looked like a well oiled machine!  Once again, Coghlin and Eli looked like they were gonna cry the whole game.  Good, I'm not a fan of them Giant's either!
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Tamer on September 20, 2010, 07:39:26 AM
I saw that the Bears and KC got another win. I also think its great that teams they say don't stand a chance win every week. Just like my Steelers! It was pretty great to see Tomlin practically tell all the media off by counting off the Steelers every week. Ofcourse I don't know what our QB situation is, cmon Ben we just have to get through two weeks! Next week vs Tampa Bay doesn't look like its gonna be an easy one.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Mandalore the skepsis on September 20, 2010, 08:39:33 PM
Agreed.  I'm also not saying Vick shouldn't have gotten in trouble, but the fact is he served his time and is now a free man, just like any other.  And whether Philly or Reid want to admit it, he's their best shot at winning.  Kolb's a joke!



I agree if the beagles want too make the playoffs or at least have a winning record, VICK is the guy.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Phatty on September 20, 2010, 09:02:58 PM
Yeah, except the "beagles" are already pulling a Bears/Lovie Smith and have already said that Kolb is starting next week, not Vick.  Too bad, because Vick is putting up MONSTER numbers for me in all of my Fantasy leagues.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Mandalore the skepsis on September 21, 2010, 06:57:49 AM
Yeah, except the "beagles" are already pulling a Bears/Lovie Smith and have already said that Kolb is starting next week, not Vick.  Too bad, because Vick is putting up MONSTER numbers for me in all of my Fantasy leagues.

Yeah I saw this last night....another EPIC FAIL from the Reid bonehead association.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Tamer on September 21, 2010, 07:33:25 AM
Its about like the Steelers firing Leftwich only to bring him back this week. Does anyone realize he was hurt which was why they fired him?!
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Tamer on September 21, 2010, 04:19:28 PM
Well Pat, looks like Vick gets the start after all! Ried just had a change of heart for some reason. LOL.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Phatty on September 21, 2010, 07:02:16 PM
thank God! Now, I just hope his sensibility will hold through the weekend!
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Mandalore the skepsis on September 21, 2010, 07:24:36 PM
Well Pat, looks like Vick gets the start after all! Ried just had a change of heart for some reason. LOL.

I think he had a change of...oh shit this is my last year if I dont freaking WIN!!!
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Tamer on January 15, 2011, 08:06:42 PM
Well I am now feeling quite happy with my Steeler victory over the Ravens after just pretty much blowing it in the first half. Now do I think we can get past the Patriots, no way, but you know what they say about any given Sunday and the Ravens always have been a pain in our side. It is no wonder we have had two Lombardi trophies since that team has hit the league.

It looks like GB is giving the Falcons fits right now, but for now I am just gonna enjoy a hard fought win. Daggone, I know I got a few more grey hairs after the game tonight. Hats off to the Ravens for pretty much blowing us out the first half, I had pretty much resigned myself to loosing the game. Like I said before, I do believe this is as far as we get, whoever wins the AFC game tomorrow, but it feels good right now to have played to the potential I think we have.

I am envisioning a GB vs. NE superbowl and think it will be the best and closest superbowl we have ever had.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Phatty on January 15, 2011, 11:00:37 PM
Boy, I am NOT happy this Post Season.  So far, of the games I actually cared about, I'm 0-for-3 with picks.  I wanted Indy to beat the Jets, Philly to beat the Seahags, and the Falcons to beat Green Bay (Sorry Wayne!)  So I guess now I need to root for the Seahags to beat my Bears so that my trend can continue and my Bears go on.  Being a Chicago fan all my life, I want the Bears to beat the snot out of Green Bay, but I gotta be honest, the Pack are actually looking good.  Hell, the Falcons under Matt Ryan are 20-2 at home, with those 2 losses coming almost 2 years apart!  Yet Rodgers went in there tonight and hung 45 (at last look) on them like it was nothing.  Sadly, and while I hate to admit it, I'm looking at a Packers/Patriots Super Bowl, and that will be a travesty since I don't want either team to win.  It WOULD be pretty sweet to see a Bears/Patriots Super Bowl, a repeat 25 years in the making!
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Tamer on January 19, 2011, 06:54:43 PM
Well Pat the Patriots are out so now its either gonna be the Jets or the Steelers going on the AFC side. I know I am a bit biased, but I do think the game they had against us the last time won't be quite as good as the game they get this time. At first I did like Rex Ryan's Bravado, but after all that smack talk last week versus the Patriots I would love to see the Steelers knock that grin off his face. I guess we will see.

As for the NFC match up it is also gonna be down to the wire I think. I will be honest I think this game depends on how comfortable they let Aaron Rodgers get. I think if he gets hammered a few times (and doesn't beat the blitz which he is so capable of) that the Bears will probably have the game well in hand. If they let him get comfortable I think it is gonna be a long afternoon for Bears fans. Its gonna be a nail biter.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Phatty on January 19, 2011, 08:20:41 PM
Can't say I disagree with you, on most things, Shawn.  As I've said in the past, I am an NFC man.  I really can't tell you why, but I always have preferred the NFC teams to the AFC.  I'm split on Rex Ryan; on one hand, he's highly entertaining, while on the other, enough with the trash talk.  It's nice to see he's not doing that against the Steelers.  However, I absolutely cannot stand Ben Gropeherburger at all.  Not to mention, I love to see teams who haven't won in a long time, or not at all, win the SB, and since Ben's got some rings, I could care less if they get bounced out.  If for whatever reason, my Bears don't make the Super Bowl, I need a team I can route for, and that will have to be the Jets.  Not for Ryan, or Sanchez, or most of the rest of them. Not because it's New York (I despise NY teams on principle!), or because they wear green.  I'd like to see Ladanian Tomlinson win a ring.  See, I'm also not at all a Chargers fan.  I don't think they reward loyalty or hard work on that team, and are too quick to dump quality players.  They dumped Brees, and look how that turned out for them.  They dumped Tomlinson, who still has plenty in the tank, and look how that's worked out for them.  They dumped Michael Turner, and he's had 2 fantastic years on Atlanta.  So I'm HOPING it'll be a Bears/Jets Super Bowl, with my Bears winning, of course. 

However, and it PAINS me to say this, but I do have to give he Packers credit where it's due.  Rodgers and the Pack have done one Hell of a job as of late, and are definitely tough.  Sunday should be a great game!
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Reconsgt on January 23, 2011, 04:42:44 PM
That was one heck of a game, The way the Pack started had me feeling good but the 2nd half had me on the edge of my seat.

Bears played well at the end, but I am in heaven to see the Pack back in the big show.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Phatty on January 23, 2011, 05:11:59 PM
Yeah, I bet you are!  I tell you what though, this game has me totally questioning Cutler's heart.  This is the second time this season he went out of a game with a mysterious injury.  Personally, I don't think he can handle the pressure.  Hanie looked pretty darn good though, and I have to wonder if he had been in the whole game, if the outcome wouldn't have been different.  Oh well, nothing to do now but root for the Jets since I can't stand Ben Rapeherburger or the Steelers (Sorry Tamer!), and as a Chicago fan, I CANNOT root for the Pack.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Tamer on January 23, 2011, 05:15:46 PM
I figured that victory might get you in here. I must say the game was a lot closer than I thought it was gonna be after watching the first half. And to think the Bears just about came and tied it up at the end with their third string quarterback shows just how good their defense was doing, but I do think it is gonna be gloom and doom for Cutler for awhile. I wonder if he really did have a knee injury or if he was politely told to go with that story as his first half play was not so great. Seeing him walking around the second half sure didn't seem like he had an injury, but he is not as whiny as most primadonna QBs. Pat, my condlences I am sure you are probably gonna be inconsolable for the rest of today and tomorrow as will most of your surrounding area. I am happy for the whole GB organization to finally be past the whole Favre thing and them going to the superbowl shows McCarthy and Rodgers are legit. I knew they were the whole time, but I did have a little smile knowing that ole Favre is probaly gritting his teeth after that win. Congrats Wayne.

Now onto the other game. I am trying not to watch too much of it, I swear as soon as I start seeing them on tv they start loosing. It is like the Tamer Jinx or something. I got so fired up during the last game that my wife, daughter, and father in law went running from the room. I get so sick when I see them shoot themselves in the foot, I just can't stand it.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Reconsgt on January 23, 2011, 06:21:12 PM
Well I think it looks safe for you to watch, it appears atleast they have the Jets number.

As for the Pack, With the way last year ended and this new one started, I needed this. Takes my mind off all the other crap and stress. Though this post season and the end of the regualr season was stressfull, it was atleast fun.

To say I am happy to see the ghost of Favre be exercised is an understatement. I rooted for him to be sure when he played for us but to see they way he ended his career with the drama and scandals was an embarrasment. It goes to show his true character I guess, may he enjoy his retirement and fade away.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Tamer on January 24, 2011, 05:17:41 AM
Well Pat who you gonna root for now my man!

Needless to say my fears were almost realized when they went up 24 to 0 and then let em get back to 24 to 19, but we held on to win. When we got that safety (can't blame Ben it was  a new center) I got flashbacks of the last game. I gotta credit Tomlin with doing some throwing there at the end when it seemed obvious to all that it was a ground pound it game and he outthunk ole Rexy. WhoHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Needless to say I am on cloud 9 today.

Listening to Mike and Mike on espn radio this morning, it is not so hot on the Cutler topic and boy are they crucifying him. I am hoping his mri shows losts of problems so perhaps it will get a little easier for him, but wow they keep showing shots of him walking around looking anywhere but the game and then when Hainne was looking at film he wasn't even trying to talk to him. I guess we are getting just one side, but wow it sure doesn't look good. The way he handled that question wasn't good either. I hear they are burning his jerseys in the street in Chicago.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Reconsgt on February 06, 2011, 06:44:29 AM
Todays the day Tamer.   I am sure the last 2 weeks were a long 2 for you as well.

I saw on the local news that even folks are driving upto Green Bay to spend time in the bars around Lambeau field to watch the game and these idiots were linning up already at 7AM to get in to claim a seat. Some of these places have a 2500 seat limit so that a freaking big bar, but lining up 8 hours prior to kick off is nuts.

Anyhow,  I hope for a good game with a Green and Gold outcome.   
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Tamer on February 06, 2011, 08:03:14 AM
Yeah, we are gonna have to agree to disagree on the victor my friend as I am hoping for a black and gold outcome.

I do agree with you on the whole tired of the two week wait. I am having a small family get together at my house to watch the game. I am hoping I don't spend too much time working on new swear words. My little gal said she had a plan to coming running when I yelled and I told her she had better make sure it was a good yell and not a bad one and when my wife asked her how she would know the difference she just cocked her head to the side and said, "Mommy, you know daddy's bad yells always have the words I am not allowed to spell in them." Is that a good way to start the superbowl festivities or what!

I will be honest too and admit that if we do loose I will be glad for Aaron Rodgers to finally get the whole Favre thing off his back. I watched Dion Sanders, who I think should never have been an announcer, ask him if he talked to Brett about the game and he just said no. What a classless thing to ask someone was what I was thinking.

I think whoever can get into the rythm of the game the quickest on offense is gonna win. Both of the defenses and the def. coordinators I think are gonna dial in eventually so who get some points on the board early is probably gonna be the winner. I think it is probably gonna be one of the most exciting superbowls we have had in awhile too.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Clonehead on February 06, 2011, 08:47:57 AM
I agree that either way, it will be a good game. Green and gold.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Phatty on February 06, 2011, 09:37:18 AM
I still can't jump on either bandwagon.  Try as I might, I just don't have any stake in the outcome.  I guess I could do what others have done and sell my bad luck in picking winners to the highest bidder on Ebay.  We're going to my in-laws to watch it, mostly because I need to sit down with my mother-in-law and try and get the website I'm building for the animal clinic she works for done finally.  I started this before CV, and I'm just not getting the info I need to finish it and it's irritating me.  Otherwise, I very likely would have spent the day playing a little Black Ops instead.

However, for the sake of continuing the discussion, if I had to pick someone to root for, it'd be the Packers.  I know, I know, all Bears fans can start throwing their sausages and beers at me now.  I can't STAND Worthlessburger, and they've won 6 times.  He has his ring.  Plus, I don't care for the AFC.  I'm an NFC guy, and I'd rather my bears lose to the eventual Super Bowl champs than the runners up.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Tamer on February 06, 2011, 02:48:04 PM
Wow Pat, I remember you were talking to me about that while we were at CV. No wonder your irritated.

Back to football, this is the time I hate most, before the game. Everyone has their own forecast and it seems that the Hollywood Elite try to suddenly become football experts. Listening to Zeta Jones say the Packers are gonna win because she like cheese was just awful. She was booed and then she said don't shoot me, I'm from Wales in broken English. You gotta love it.

Who will get to the QB first is the name of the game. Let the wait be over!
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Phatty on February 06, 2011, 09:20:10 PM
Ok, where to start?

The worst pregame of any sports event I've ever seen, period.  An interview with Obama about politics?  Seriously?  No one cares about that crap right now.  Tomorrow, yes.  Today, no.  Talking to NASCAR drivers about the upcoming season?  WHO GIVES A CRAP?  Listening to Jerry Jones and Michael Irvin and Jimmy Johnson talk about Cowboys crap?  They weren't in the damn Super Bowl, so who cares?  Absolute crap.

Christina Aguilera completely butchered the NATIONAL ANTHEM!!!!  Hey, blondie, here's a tip; DO A LITTLE REHERSAL/RESEARCH!!!  It's absolutely criminal when someone is chosen to sing the National Anthem at a sporting event and they screw it up. 

The Black Eyed Peas haven't been relevant in years.  Of course, after Nipple-gate (you remember, the one where NO ONE saw a nipple because it was covered with a pastie that you STILL didn't see!), all we get are outdated, over aged acts, and now we get one who relies so heavily on synthisized vocals that they sounded completely like shit.  The only part that was worth watching was Slash on the guitar, because he is a master.  Even the back up dancers that surrounded the stage were completely out of synch and their choreography was for crap.

The game itself was pretty good, a pretty close game in the end.  It was nice to see someone who hasn't won before win.  As much as it pains me to say, and I'll be sure to kick my own ass later, I had to root for the Packers.

The commercials were ok in my book.  The first half yielded some pretty funny ones, and then we got mostly older commercials from then on.  A poor effort all around.

Bottom line:  I should have stayed home and played Call of Duty all night.  At least they were awarding double points all weekend.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Tamer on February 07, 2011, 04:07:58 AM
I agree on all points Pat. That national anthem screw up will probably come back to haunt her I would think. Geesh.

I loved the Volkswagon little Vader commercial. Best one in my opinion.

As for the game it was great, so touch and go there for so long and came down pretty much to the end. I am happy for GB and Aaron Rodgers who should never have to hear the name Favre uttered with his again. I am ofcourse sad my team didn't get it done after such a roller coaster season, but am also hoping perhaps we will use this to upgrade our QB position who I will admit is hard to root for after all of his off the field problems.
Title: Re: NFL 2010
Post by: Reconsgt on February 07, 2011, 06:37:36 AM
I as estatic right now. I was a very nervous fan when the injuries hit. Once Woodsona dn Shields went out I felt that it would be a passing exibition against us. I feel for yha Tamer but I am thrilled for our little city.

Good game, fun, exciting.

I to did enjoy teh Vader commercial the best, but felt they were lacking from years past.

The pre-game and anthem were an embarrasment to us all, all I can say is WTF was with that.